Usyk owns this era..AJ and Fury messed up.

[Master]

Usyk is a phenomena and would be a top contender, if not champion, in any era.

He is considered a small heavyweight by todays standards and yet is beating fighters 80lb bigger than him. It is truly incredible what he is doing. Evander Holyfield was the closest to what Usyk is doing today.

No way would I have thought he could have beaten AJ and Fury but he has by taking the fight to them. They could not handle his pace, skills and attacks.

AJ, Fury and Dubois did not mess up. They simply were not better than Usyk.

[TitoFan]

I like Usyk.
No posturing...
No blah blah blah...
No dragging things on and on and on...

Just put the guy in front of me and I'll fight him.

It's refreshing.

[ykdadamaja]

Why are you trolling us? lol.. First Canelo could beat Benavidez and now this. kml... Nice conversation starter.

[Spicoli]

Usyk is the true boss-man of this era. There's an immeasurable respect and appreciation for a championship fighter who absolutely cleans his division and then legit jumps up to again do the same. Doing it quality over quantity style. He's an under the radar character at times pre and post-fight but humble and professional at the core. Between he and Holyfield the whole back handed term "small heavyweight" needs to be stricken from boxings lexicon.

[Mark TKO]

I never thought AJ was as a great heavyweight - but certainly one of best of his era. I favoured Usyk to win both their fights.

Fury didn't capitalise in his prime and started to piss around and become a circus act. Can't forgive him for that.

However as good as Usyk is let's not forget how close the first fight was. The last twenty seconds of round 9 was the difference between winning and losing for me - Fury was far from owned in that fight.

I'll reserve the decision on who owns the era till the rematch - I wouldn't be surprised if it led to a trilogy. Usyk is favourite but would anyone be really shocked if Fury won it.

As good as he is I just don't see him troubling a prime Lewis. Lewis too big, too smart and bigger puncher to hurt him.

[Primo Carnera]

I find it embarrassing and ridiculous that Turki is saying regardless of whether Fury wins or loses, he wants to make the AJ v Fury fight next.
So quite conceivably Usyk could beat Fury, and they make the “biggest fight in the division” airbrushing the fact that he would’ve beaten both of them twice!
Please make it make sense.
Absolutely disgraceful.

[Beanz]

I find it embarrassing and ridiculous that Turki is saying regardless of whether Fury wins or loses, he wants to make the AJ v Fury fight next.
So quite conceivably Usyk could beat Fury, and they make the “biggest fight in the division” airbrushing the fact that he would’ve beaten both of them twice!
Please make it make sense.
Absolutely disgraceful.

I understand why, money and the spectacle, and it will not take away anything from Usyk's legacy. I think Joshua stops Fury and probably always would have. For that alone and the reassessment of Fury's massively overrated legacy it will make it bearable.

[Spicoli]

I find it embarrassing and ridiculous that Turki is saying regardless of whether Fury wins or loses, he wants to make the AJ v Fury fight next.
So quite conceivably Usyk could beat Fury, and they make the “biggest fight in the division” airbrushing the fact that he would’ve beaten both of them twice!
Please make it make sense.
Absolutely disgraceful.

There's a lot of smoke n mirrors going on with boxing now it seems. On one hand I can appreciate that risking a loss at a high level is what we need more of, less protecting the "0" and status etc. On the other losses come with consequences and a reset in pecking order for at the very least respect to the victor and opening avenues, exposure for other talents. However with Turki there comes this mindset that billions can erase anything and nothing changes. He's also shown to get ahead of himself and the fact that other fights need to play out before these "biggest of the big" match ups come about. He's shown no willingness to pivot and create alternate big fights for the most part. Tried it with Wilder who fell flat and who then marched right back into a mega payday to only be sparked again. Then Turki floated some absurd "loser must retire" wrestling type idea with Wilder vs Chisora . Miller lays an egg with Ruiz...aside from being a multi time cheat...and Turki is literally at ringside assuring Miller he'll be brought right back for a mega bag. Had tunnel vision on Bud vs Canelo as some fantasy land "big" fight even prior to Bud making 154 debut. Which was so so and a clear indicator that Crawford has maxed out in weight and preforming in tip top form. Age and inactivity taken into consideration. Initially he reset and said he wanted Ortiz vs Crawford instead...a realistic mega fight at his new division 154...now it's crickets and we're right back to Canelo cash out talk. In the long run it's imo cheapening the fans as well as the fighters. Money is the be all and end all but at the same time it's falsely inflated the market value overpaying guys who have come up short. Partly why I think all the talk of a boxing league is nonsense and can see it being nothing but a case of the have and the have nots regardless of actual performance and "star" status. Results very much matter.

[imp]

I never thought AJ was as a great heavyweight - but certainly one of best of his era. I favoured Usyk to win both their fights.

Fury didn't capitalise in his prime and started to piss around and become a circus act. Can't forgive him for that.

However as good as Usyk is let's not forget how close the first fight was. The last twenty seconds of round 9 was the difference between winning and losing for me - Fury was far from owned in that fight.

I'll reserve the decision on who owns the era till the rematch - I wouldn't be surprised if it led to a trilogy. Usyk is favourite but would anyone be really shocked if Fury won it.

As good as he is I just don't see him troubling a prime Lewis. Lewis too big, too smart and bigger puncher to hurt him.

I had it 8-4 Usyk.

Fury won 4,5,6,7.

Ref would have stopped the fight if Usyk was getting battered like that in the 9th round.

AJ never won Gold in the Olympics it was given to him.

He’s a solid heavyweight but he wins runner up until Usyk retires.

It’s disgusting that Usyk has been stripped by the IBF and the guys he beat get a chance to become champion?!

[Mark TKO]

Fair enough. I had usyk winning by two. Rewatched it twice. Very difficult to score most of the rounds for me but we've all got our views.

I think giving the knockdown was fair enough and didn't think it was anywhere near a stoppage. But fury was proper hurt. He's been down several times but not hurt like that (wilder one he was dead not
hurt).

Hope the rematch is decisive