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    Default Re: Bivol v Beterbiev next!

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    Wow, Beterbiev says he'll be better next and then says Bivol is better skilled than him tonight . Must be a language barrier.
    He's Russian lol?
    Russian-Canadian. Eh
    Beterbiev has a dry sense of humour.

    It was a quality contest where Bivol was winning early but Beterbiev slowly came on strong later.

    Bivol landed the eye catching punches but Beterbiev was more dominant in the rounds.

    Very good fight.
    The literal words from his mouth were Bivol more skilled than me. Other than maybe the 11th I'm not sure where the domination of Betrbiev was. He fought in gaps with very little sustained. His body work was MIA for the vast majority. Great match up, good fight. They def need to rematch but we all know Bivol will not get the rematch. I'd love to be wrong though because both deserve it.
    When I was younger many years ago I would get what I call the bias eye. When you focus so much on the guy you want to win or the guy you are hoping to win or the guy you think will win. You find yourself watching only his movements, his slips, his jabs landed, his flurries, his feints, his combination etc. You become blind to what your hero's opponent is doing. I'm not mocking you but its taken me years to balance the judgment of a fight and watch every angle with a non bias view. Tonight I swayed because I could see the commentary lean towards Bivol noting when bivol landed and not so much when Beterbiev landed. I have no idea why they do tis other than the assumption that they favoured bivol before the fight started.

    You really have to be honest with yourself and judge a fight for yourself.
    By default I learned to tune Bradley out years ago. Commentary in general always has that one house fighter apple polisher yelling up a certain side. As an esthetic and key feature on a broadcast it can be frustrating, but you learn to tune it out and let YOUR eyes read what is unfolding to you. I don't get caught up in cheerleaders unless they're the ring card gals. My bias eye was heavy when I started scoring fights in the early 90's. Often I would shade rounds 10-10 and look back calling a fight a robbery but then realize I had 4,5 "even" rounds . Which in effect is saying, well I have no idea who won that round(s) thus the fight. Sure, we have the occasional even round, but you learn to observe the subtle differences playing out and gameplan execution. Often however so small in close rounds. Used to also try scoring minute to minute as even rounds are near impossible then. End of the day after 30 years and many wrong, and many right I tend to go with the cleaner busier boxer, effective puncher doing more of what he genuinely want to do. Scoring is indeed very subjective and in this newer era I've seen a lot of fall back on punch stats. Those also can be pretty misleading imo.

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    Default Re: Bivol v Beterbiev next!

    Gutted that I missed the fight, but thankful for the great RBR from you guys. Life sometimes gets in the way of the best laid plans. Sounds like the fight lived up to the hype. Nothing but respect for these two. I'll obviously try and catch it on YouTube or a delayed telecast.

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    Default Re: Bivol v Beterbiev next!

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Gutted that I missed the fight, but thankful for the great RBR from you guys. Life sometimes gets in the way of the best laid plans. Sounds like the fight lived up to the hype. Nothing but respect for these two. I'll obviously try and catch it on YouTube or a delayed telecast.
    couple of links
    https://x.com/i/status/1845320301934149721
    http://ok.ru/video/7250165566053

    Last edited by TIC; 10-13-2024 at 10:00 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
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    Gutted that I missed the fight, but thankful for the great RBR from you guys. Life sometimes gets in the way of the best laid plans. Sounds like the fight lived up to the hype. Nothing but respect for these two. I'll obviously try and catch it on YouTube or a delayed telecast.
    couple of links
    https://x.com/i/status/1845320301934149721
    http://ok.ru/video/7250165566053

    @TIC , Any more links? Both those 2 have been taken down. I watched the first 6 rounds earlier on the X link , but it’s been blocked.
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    Default Re: Bivol v Beterbiev next!

    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
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    Gutted that I missed the fight, but thankful for the great RBR from you guys. Life sometimes gets in the way of the best laid plans. Sounds like the fight lived up to the hype. Nothing but respect for these two. I'll obviously try and catch it on YouTube or a delayed telecast.
    couple of links
    https://x.com/i/status/1845320301934149721
    http://ok.ru/video/7250165566053

    @TIC , Any more links? Both those 2 have been taken down. I watched the first 6 rounds earlier on the X link , but it’s been blocked.
    the youtube one still seems to be up for me

    this one is working as of this post
    http://ok.ru/video/7251242846821
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    Default Re: Bivol v Beterbiev next!

    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
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    Gutted that I missed the fight, but thankful for the great RBR from you guys. Life sometimes gets in the way of the best laid plans. Sounds like the fight lived up to the hype. Nothing but respect for these two. I'll obviously try and catch it on YouTube or a delayed telecast.
    couple of links
    https://x.com/i/status/1845320301934149721
    http://ok.ru/video/7250165566053

    @TIC , Any more links? Both those 2 have been taken down. I watched the first 6 rounds earlier on the X link , but it’s been blocked.
    the youtube one still seems to be up for me

    this one is working as of this post
    http://ok.ru/video/7251242846821
    Cheers @TIC, just watched it. Gotta be honest , I may be biased, but I had Bivol winning it by at least 2 rounds.
    The problem was that Bivol was on the back foot most of the fight. It’s hard to look like you’re winning the fight like that.
    But pro boxing is scored on rounds won. Unless you knock someone down or completely batter someone in a round, it’s 10-9.
    And Bivol won more rounds, landed with more combinations, more punches. Just because they didn’t have an effect because Beterbiev is made of stone doesn’t matter. You don’t win rounds by absorbing punches.
    I can see why judges gave Beterbiev rounds, but it doesn’t make it right.
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    Default Re: Bivol v Beterbiev next!

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Gutted that I missed the fight, but thankful for the great RBR from you guys. Life sometimes gets in the way of the best laid plans. Sounds like the fight lived up to the hype. Nothing but respect for these two. I'll obviously try and catch it on YouTube or a delayed telecast.
    Do not watch the highlights, and score the whole fight yourself. The skills from both were of the highest quality. I have not seen Beterbiev get hit so much cleanly and Bivol as exhausted from the pressure. They brought the best out of each other.

    Enjoy it.
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