Who is next for Canelo?

[TitoFan]

To be honest if ever there's an example of how "numbers" and records can be misleading and carefully manufactured in the sport, it's the empty echos in the air that are the records of Berlanga and Munguia used to bolster ol Nelo . Figure Canelo will aim for Eubank but honestly no idea. Safe to say it won't be stimulating on the 2025 leg of his retirement tour.

Thanks for stating what should be painfully obvious even to the casual fan.

[TIC]

naoya getting a pass for tj doheny & sam goodman el oh el

[ykdadamaja]

Nobody wants to see Canelo anymore. He may as well retire. The fans are focused on the Bivol v Beterbiev rivalry now. And also, to see if Benavidez can run through the LH's all to way to either Bivol or Betervbiev... We also have our eyes back on the heavyweights to see how Dubois manages his championship and whether Fury will come back on top v Usyk. We are also still enjoying Crawford and Inoue.

The fans have no more care for Canelo now.

[TIC]

i still want to see canelo, depending who he fights. i agree that there are lots of good fighters & fights out there. there is boxing on almost everyday currently

[TitoFan]

naoya getting a pass for tj doheny & sam goodman el oh el

Look.

You can say COVID doesn't exist.

You can consider anything and everything a scam.

You can refuse to believe anything until you've "verified it" for yourself.

But please.....

PLEASE

Do not put Naoya Inoue and Ginger in the same sentence (and/or thought) ever again.

Thanks.

[TIC]

[QUOTE=TitoFan;1670389]

naoya getting a pass for tj doheny & sam goodman el oh el

You can say COVID doesn't exist.

can you tell me how you proved that what ever you believe covid is, is the cause of the claimed symptoms? also can you please stay on topic. this has nothing to do with canelo

You can consider anything and everything a scam.

this is a misrepresentation. i don't consider anything and everything a scam. there are a lot of scams out there though. also can you please stay on topic. this has nothing to do with canelo

You can refuse to believe anything until you've "verified it" for yourself.

if you haven't verified if something is true or real for yourself then you only hold a belief, you do not know. also can you please stay on topic. this has nothing to do with canelo

But please.....

PLEASE

Do not put Naoya Inoue and Ginger in the same sentence (and/or thought) ever again.

Thanks.

no can do cico bean. canelo's last two opponents are just as good if not better than sam goodman & tj doheny in my opinion but you'll give naoya a pass

[Spicoli]

naoya getting a pass for tj doheny & sam goodman el oh el

Who said anything about an Inoue. But I suppose it says something that he serves as Canelos whataboutism now. Wasn't a soul here that didn't know it was just a matter of time for TJ going in. And at least Goodman beat a Ring top 5 to climb up a bit. Guess we can spot Munguia Ryder lol with the fact Canelo had to pound out him first. Derevyanchenko still serviceable and brought Munguia to the brink of defeat even if coming up in weight.

Basic difference is no one is highlighting their records as credibility for Inoue. No need. That's the point Canelo is at. Safe to say Inoue has (and will take *cough cough) some huge match ups in front of him. Canelo, he's worried about his tee time now.

[TIC]

naoya getting a pass for tj doheny & sam goodman el oh el

Who said anything about an Inoue. But I suppose it says something that he serves as Canelos whataboutism now. Wasn't a soul here that didn't know it was just a matter of time for TJ going in. And at least Goodman beat a Ring top 5 to climb up a bit. Guess we can spot Munguia Ryder lol with the fact Canelo had to pound out him first. Derevyanchenko still serviceable and brought Munguia to the brink of defeat even if coming up in weight.

Basic difference is no one is highlighting their records as credibility for Inoue. No need. That's the point Canelo is at. Safe to say Inoue has (and will take *cough cough) some huge match ups in front of him. Canelo, he's worried about his tee time now.

i said something about naoya because you were going on about canelo's opponents records & sam goodman & tj doheny aren't much better. basic difference is canelo is fighting these guys at the end part of his career

[Spicoli]

naoya getting a pass for tj doheny & sam goodman el oh el

Who said anything about an Inoue. But I suppose it says something that he serves as Canelos whataboutism now. Wasn't a soul here that didn't know it was just a matter of time for TJ going in. And at least Goodman beat a Ring top 5 to climb up a bit. Guess we can spot Munguia Ryder lol with the fact Canelo had to pound out him first. Derevyanchenko still serviceable and brought Munguia to the brink of defeat even if coming up in weight.

Basic difference is no one is highlighting their records as credibility for Inoue. No need. That's the point Canelo is at. Safe to say Inoue has (and will take *cough cough) some huge match ups in front of him. Canelo, he's worried about his tee time now.

i said something about naoya because you were going on about canelo's opponents records & sam goodman & tj doheny aren't much better. basic difference is canelo is fighting these guys at the end part of his career

Well yeh it's a Canelo thread and he's the topic so seemed fit to respond to what you're putting out in it, so there's that . And Canelo fought plenty of these type of guys with his stacked A side in said career, let's just be real now .

[TIC]

so you had the same energy for naoya in another thread? every fighter has filler fights, let's just be real now

[Spicoli]

so you had the same energy for naoya in another thread? every fighter has filler fights, let's just be real now

What same energy?! You did this before with the Munguia fight saying I called it complete trash and dismissed it or something to that effect. Then I showed you otherwise. If you care to look back said both Munguia and TJ would be decent "entertaining" type fights but not great, before it was all over for them. Same energy is quite easy when you don't pretend a fighter is flawless and refuse to call out on the bad.

Seriously. The record of Berlanga and getting the fight was a running joke among nearly all. Absent the most ardent fanboys. And even the majority called BS on it. It was actually refreshing . Flaunting his record as some achievement or credential for Canelo is with respect, bonkers.

[TitoFan]

This shit is priceless...

I had previously posted a quote from De La Hoya regarding Canelo.

Here's a recent one from Andre Ward...






Here's the translation:

"The problem with Canelo Alvarez is not only the stain of (avoiding) Benavidez, but bigger things that have happened with him throughout his career.

The problem also arises when he begins to say he's one of the greatest in history, or one of the greatest Mexicans of all time, and that is NOT true.

He's a great of marketing, of creating a base of followers, of selling tickets. When you see his history you become aware that he does not take risks; he picks his rivals, some are already old, he chooses others because it is the opportune moment, he chooses others that are 2 weight divisions below, etc."

MANY former fighters know what Canelo really is: A FRAUD.

[TIC]

there are many fighters that praise canelo

[Spicoli]

This shit is priceless...

I had previously posted a quote from De La Hoya regarding Canelo.

Here's a recent one from Andre Ward...






Here's the translation:

"The problem with Canelo Alvarez is not only the stain of (avoiding) Benavidez, but bigger things that have happened with him throughout his career.

The problem also arises when he begins to say he's one of the greatest in history, or one of the greatest Mexicans of all time, and that is NOT true.

He's a great of marketing, of creating a base of followers, of selling tickets. When you see his history you become aware that he does not take risks; he picks his rivals, some are already old, he chooses others because it is the opportune moment, he chooses others that are 2 weight divisions below, etc."

MANY former fighters know what Canelo really is: A FRAUD.

It was the Angulo crapola where I first opened my eyes to Canelos's -these are not the droids you're looking for- powers of manipulation.

I'm not ruling out a Plant rematch either . If/when he can uproot Scull. Can just see Canelo wanting that trinket back and then the barking of "multi time undisputed' begins.

[TitoFan]

It was the Angulo crapola where I first opened my eyes to Canelos's -these are not the droids you're looking for- powers of manipulation.

I'm not ruling out a Plant rematch either . If/when he can uproot Scull. Can just see Canelo wanting that trinket back and then the barking of "multi time undisputed' begins.

I just don't remember any other great fighter ever getting the mass criticism of their career from former fighters, that Canelo gets.

The list is long:

Tim Bradley
JMM
ODLH
Andre Ward
Erik Morales

Even Mexican journalists, like Majo Gonzalez. Also guys like David Faitelson, ESPN Deportes analyst.

SHIT... even famed Mexican trainer Nacho Beristain has criticized how Canelo has conducted and still conducts his career, with all the picking and choosing and marinating and ducking.


Hell... no current or former fighter is universally liked or admired.

Take someone like Floyd. People thoroughly disliked him. But many of them disliked him for his personality and his conduct outside the ring. Yeah... some claim he ducked certain fighters.

Damn... ALL fighters get accused of ducking sooner or later.



But with Canelo it is an almost universal dislike of how he has carefully manufactured and hyped his career.

You see pictures of past Mexican champions posing for a picture..... I've never seen Canelo in any one of them. Even if he's still fighting. It's not like they couldn't invite him if they wanted to.

No. They want to preserve the warrior mentality and "face all challengers" attitude that all of them had.



Ginger is a FRAUD. Pure and simple. As far as I'm concerned, he can't retire soon enough.

I don't even give a damn whether he ever fights Benavidez or not. That ship has sailed.