Who is next for Canelo?

[TIC]

naoya getting a pass for tj doheny & sam goodman el oh el

Who said anything about an Inoue. But I suppose it says something that he serves as Canelos whataboutism now. Wasn't a soul here that didn't know it was just a matter of time for TJ going in. And at least Goodman beat a Ring top 5 to climb up a bit. Guess we can spot Munguia Ryder lol with the fact Canelo had to pound out him first. Derevyanchenko still serviceable and brought Munguia to the brink of defeat even if coming up in weight.

Basic difference is no one is highlighting their records as credibility for Inoue. No need. That's the point Canelo is at. Safe to say Inoue has (and will take *cough cough) some huge match ups in front of him. Canelo, he's worried about his tee time now.

i said something about naoya because you were going on about canelo's opponents records & sam goodman & tj doheny aren't much better. basic difference is canelo is fighting these guys at the end part of his career

[Spicoli]

naoya getting a pass for tj doheny & sam goodman el oh el

Who said anything about an Inoue. But I suppose it says something that he serves as Canelos whataboutism now. Wasn't a soul here that didn't know it was just a matter of time for TJ going in. And at least Goodman beat a Ring top 5 to climb up a bit. Guess we can spot Munguia Ryder lol with the fact Canelo had to pound out him first. Derevyanchenko still serviceable and brought Munguia to the brink of defeat even if coming up in weight.

Basic difference is no one is highlighting their records as credibility for Inoue. No need. That's the point Canelo is at. Safe to say Inoue has (and will take *cough cough) some huge match ups in front of him. Canelo, he's worried about his tee time now.

i said something about naoya because you were going on about canelo's opponents records & sam goodman & tj doheny aren't much better. basic difference is canelo is fighting these guys at the end part of his career

Well yeh it's a Canelo thread and he's the topic so seemed fit to respond to what you're putting out in it, so there's that . And Canelo fought plenty of these type of guys with his stacked A side in said career, let's just be real now .

[TIC]

so you had the same energy for naoya in another thread? every fighter has filler fights, let's just be real now

[Spicoli]

so you had the same energy for naoya in another thread? every fighter has filler fights, let's just be real now

What same energy?! You did this before with the Munguia fight saying I called it complete trash and dismissed it or something to that effect. Then I showed you otherwise. If you care to look back said both Munguia and TJ would be decent "entertaining" type fights but not great, before it was all over for them. Same energy is quite easy when you don't pretend a fighter is flawless and refuse to call out on the bad.

Seriously. The record of Berlanga and getting the fight was a running joke among nearly all. Absent the most ardent fanboys. And even the majority called BS on it. It was actually refreshing . Flaunting his record as some achievement or credential for Canelo is with respect, bonkers.

[TIC]

so you had the same energy for naoya in another thread? every fighter has filler fights, let's just be real now

What same energy?! You did this before with the Munguia fight saying I called it complete trash and dismissed it or something to that effect. Then I showed you otherwise. If you care to look back said both Munguia and TJ would be decent "entertaining" type fights but not great, before it was all over for them. Same energy is quite easy when you don't pretend a fighter is flawless and refuse to call out on the bad.

Seriously. The record of Berlanga and getting the fight was a running joke among nearly all. Absent the most ardent fanboys. And even the majority called BS on it. It was actually refreshing . Flaunting his record as some achievement or credential for Canelo is with respect, bonkers.

the same energy for naoya's filler fights as you do for canelo's. just checked & yeah nothing from you in the naoya v sam thread. who's pretending a fighter is flawless & who is refusing to call out the bad? edgar deserved a shot just as much as sam does. no one is flaunting his record as an achievement or credential. i just posted the record of canelo's last three opponents

[TitoFan]

so you had the same energy for naoya in another thread? every fighter has filler fights, let's just be real now

What same energy?! You did this before with the Munguia fight saying I called it complete trash and dismissed it or something to that effect. Then I showed you otherwise. If you care to look back said both Munguia and TJ would be decent "entertaining" type fights but not great, before it was all over for them. Same energy is quite easy when you don't pretend a fighter is flawless and refuse to call out on the bad.

Seriously. The record of Berlanga and getting the fight was a running joke among nearly all. Absent the most ardent fanboys. And even the majority called BS on it. It was actually refreshing . Flaunting his record as some achievement or credential for Canelo is with respect, bonkers.

the same energy for naoya's filler fights as you do for canelo's. just checked & yeah nothing from you in the naoya v sam thread. who's pretending a fighter is flawless & who is refusing to call out the bad? edgar deserved a shot just as much as sam does. no one is flaunting his record as an achievement or credential. i just posted the record of canelo's last three opponents

What you're doing is flaunting your Canelo fanboyism by reaching as far as you can. Even daring to mention probably the #1 p4p fighter in the world right now in a pathetic effort to draw some sort of comparison with your boy.

That's laughable, even by your poor standards.

[TIC]

spicoli focused on canelo's last two opponents, i just like to see consistency & the same energy applied to all fighters

[Spicoli]

so you had the same energy for naoya in another thread? every fighter has filler fights, let's just be real now

What same energy?! You did this before with the Munguia fight saying I called it complete trash and dismissed it or something to that effect. Then I showed you otherwise. If you care to look back said both Munguia and TJ would be decent "entertaining" type fights but not great, before it was all over for them. Same energy is quite easy when you don't pretend a fighter is flawless and refuse to call out on the bad.

Seriously. The record of Berlanga and getting the fight was a running joke among nearly all. Absent the most ardent fanboys. And even the majority called BS on it. It was actually refreshing . Flaunting his record as some achievement or credential for Canelo is with respect, bonkers.

the same energy for naoya's filler fights as you do for canelo's. just checked & yeah nothing from you in the naoya v sam thread. who's pretending a fighter is flawless & who is refusing to call out the bad? edgar deserved a shot just as much as sam does. no one is flaunting his record as an achievement or credential. i just posted the record of canelo's last three opponents

”I just checked and nothing from you” . Jebus Christmas dude, do you hear yourself sometimes? What am I on a time clock or quota system to post on your schedule lol. About something no one initiated or even brought up but you. You’ve gone from casual deflection or subject change to making it a job now

Dude. You posted making the records of Munguia and Berlanga a topic and highlight for Canelo. YOU did that. To which you got replies and responses. But instead of discussing the point YOU brought up, ya pull something completely out of left field to do some round about comparison. How about you worry about your consistency before you sit on a mount checking everyone else’s. I told you a page or two ago, at least Goodman...as with Munguia...actually defeated a Ring top contender. Though, his was #3. I put more cred in its rankings than I do some alphabet soup group politicking a running joke of a fighter (ie Berlanga) who contrary to what you you say has done nothing of the sort. Not even remotely close. Ffs I’ve actually giving Munguia some credit allllll along but you’re just determined to spin things into something else. Rinse and repeat.

[TIC]

i posted the total of canelo's last three opponents. you commented about two of them & i asked if you had the same energy for naoya's. is my post not their total records? stop making things up. what have i said about edgar? & you were quick to comment on canelo's last two but nothing on naoya v sam so i pointed it out. if you don't like the records of canelo's last three opponents that's on you, unfortunately that is what the records are

[TitoFan]

This shit is priceless...

I had previously posted a quote from De La Hoya regarding Canelo.

Here's a recent one from Andre Ward...






Here's the translation:

"The problem with Canelo Alvarez is not only the stain of (avoiding) Benavidez, but bigger things that have happened with him throughout his career.

The problem also arises when he begins to say he's one of the greatest in history, or one of the greatest Mexicans of all time, and that is NOT true.

He's a great of marketing, of creating a base of followers, of selling tickets. When you see his history you become aware that he does not take risks; he picks his rivals, some are already old, he chooses others because it is the opportune moment, he chooses others that are 2 weight divisions below, etc."

MANY former fighters know what Canelo really is: A FRAUD.

[TIC]

there are many fighters that praise canelo

[Spicoli]

This shit is priceless...

I had previously posted a quote from De La Hoya regarding Canelo.

Here's a recent one from Andre Ward...






Here's the translation:

"The problem with Canelo Alvarez is not only the stain of (avoiding) Benavidez, but bigger things that have happened with him throughout his career.

The problem also arises when he begins to say he's one of the greatest in history, or one of the greatest Mexicans of all time, and that is NOT true.

He's a great of marketing, of creating a base of followers, of selling tickets. When you see his history you become aware that he does not take risks; he picks his rivals, some are already old, he chooses others because it is the opportune moment, he chooses others that are 2 weight divisions below, etc."

MANY former fighters know what Canelo really is: A FRAUD.

It was the Angulo crapola where I first opened my eyes to Canelos's -these are not the droids you're looking for- powers of manipulation.

I'm not ruling out a Plant rematch either . If/when he can uproot Scull. Can just see Canelo wanting that trinket back and then the barking of "multi time undisputed' begins.

[TitoFan]

It was the Angulo crapola where I first opened my eyes to Canelos's -these are not the droids you're looking for- powers of manipulation.

I'm not ruling out a Plant rematch either . If/when he can uproot Scull. Can just see Canelo wanting that trinket back and then the barking of "multi time undisputed' begins.

I just don't remember any other great fighter ever getting the mass criticism of their career from former fighters, that Canelo gets.

The list is long:

Tim Bradley
JMM
ODLH
Andre Ward
Erik Morales

Even Mexican journalists, like Majo Gonzalez. Also guys like David Faitelson, ESPN Deportes analyst.

SHIT... even famed Mexican trainer Nacho Beristain has criticized how Canelo has conducted and still conducts his career, with all the picking and choosing and marinating and ducking.


Hell... no current or former fighter is universally liked or admired.

Take someone like Floyd. People thoroughly disliked him. But many of them disliked him for his personality and his conduct outside the ring. Yeah... some claim he ducked certain fighters.

Damn... ALL fighters get accused of ducking sooner or later.



But with Canelo it is an almost universal dislike of how he has carefully manufactured and hyped his career.

You see pictures of past Mexican champions posing for a picture..... I've never seen Canelo in any one of them. Even if he's still fighting. It's not like they couldn't invite him if they wanted to.

No. They want to preserve the warrior mentality and "face all challengers" attitude that all of them had.



Ginger is a FRAUD. Pure and simple. As far as I'm concerned, he can't retire soon enough.

I don't even give a damn whether he ever fights Benavidez or not. That ship has sailed.

[TitoFan]

I forgot to add Mike Tyson to the list.

But what's the need?

The point has already been made.

Canelo Alvarez probably has more detractors among former boxers than any other great fighter in history.

I would be surprised (and suspicious) to find out otherwise.

[Spicoli]

It was the Angulo crapola where I first opened my eyes to Canelos's -these are not the droids you're looking for- powers of manipulation.

I'm not ruling out a Plant rematch either . If/when he can uproot Scull. Can just see Canelo wanting that trinket back and then the barking of "multi time undisputed' begins.

I just don't remember any other great fighter ever getting the mass criticism of their career from former fighters, that Canelo gets.

The list is long:

Tim Bradley
JMM
ODLH
Andre Ward
Erik Morales

Even Mexican journalists, like Majo Gonzalez. Also guys like David Faitelson, ESPN Deportes analyst.

SHIT... even famed Mexican trainer Nacho Beristain has criticized how Canelo has conducted and still conducts his career, with all the picking and choosing and marinating and ducking.


Hell... no current or former fighter is universally liked or admired.

Take someone like Floyd. People thoroughly disliked him. But many of them disliked him for his personality and his conduct outside the ring. Yeah... some claim he ducked certain fighters.

Damn... ALL fighters get accused of ducking sooner or later.



But with Canelo it is an almost universal dislike of how he has carefully manufactured and hyped his career.

You see pictures of past Mexican champions posing for a picture..... I've never seen Canelo in any one of them. Even if he's still fighting. It's not like they couldn't invite him if they wanted to.

No. They want to preserve the warrior mentality and "face all challengers" attitude that all of them had.



Ginger is a FRAUD. Pure and simple. As far as I'm concerned, he can't retire soon enough.

I don't even give a damn whether he ever fights Benavidez or not. That ship has sailed.

You know what really sucks about it. Other than tying up the belts and division natural progression of course. It's that in a big way the lineage was broken by Canelo in this era. As far as top division "king" giving back or even passing it on at 160-168 etc. You can say Golovkin did that for Canelo, once twice at 160. Those are passing of the torch type division/era progress for Canelo but he just shut down shop once he went to 168 where a legit threat and "next" Benavidez was Rings #1 and was right there. David was literally #1 for 5 years as ol Canelo just worked around him like a kid sneaking back into the house after midnight trying not to wake up the parents. Belts smelts. The best guys got tired of waiting on the diva to sac up and sort it out for 168, win or lose or rematch. Tip toe thru the tulips Nelo.