The Nasty Weather Thread

[Spicoli]

Rather than talk about "claims" or something being a "thing", I'll just put this here.






Not telling you to believe it. Not telling you how to interpret it. Not even telling you to look at it.

It's just there, and you can draw your own conclusions.

nah let's stick with claims, this is from chatgpt:


does your little chart have the temperature for when spicoli's area had snow? so back to my original statement "with things heating up it makes it cold enough to snow" if earth's temperature is increasing & the planet is warming how does it make it cold enough to snow in a place spicoli says he hasn't seen snow in for forty years? remember the claim is earth's (the whole thing) temperature is increasing & the planet (the whole thing) is warming. increasing temperature & warming don't equal snow

Eh got things a little mixed up there bud, I wasn't referring to current location when I said it's been 40 years since seeing snow like this.

" ...Yeh, this is normal. Haven't seen snow like this in literally 40 years...in Richmond..." And the this is normal part was sarcasm. As in this, the amount, has not happened and is not normal.

I don't have any charts or graphs but since I made the cast, I can say from firsthand experience in actually living here...the extremes are tying or breaking records. In 1895 there was 8 inches I believe. Two weeks ago we had 10.5. In July of 2023 we hit a record high temp of 105 degrees. The highest on record. There was a "feels like" temp of 115. Highest on record. 2024 here is officially recorded as the hottest summer on record with multiple 100 degree days in a row. Over the last couple of years there have been multiple days where dropping or increasing by 30-40 degrees in a single day or two have happened often. Again, the ying and yang of extreme changes are a real thing. And as talked about during hurricane seasons last year meteorologists have never witnessed that rapid intensification of a TS to a Cat3-4 in literally 24 hrs in the Gulf nor the erratic 90' change of course.

[TIC]

i agree the ying and yang of extreme changes is happening. the causes of these changes is up for discussion. these highs & lows & changes have been around as long as we've cared to take note

[TIC]

a few years old but where did the abc get this information to make this claim?

the official year book of the commonwealth of australia indicates different

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JUb...GD81UG9R6/view

[Spicoli]

i agree the ying and yang of extreme changes is happening. the causes of these changes is up for discussion. these highs & lows & changes have been around as long as we've cared to take note

Highs and lows sure. The new record highs in temps, the actual reality regardless of cause, well not so much.

[TIC]

i agree the ying and yang of extreme changes is happening. the causes of these changes is up for discussion. these highs & lows & changes have been around as long as we've cared to take note

Highs and lows sure. The new record highs in temps, the actual reality regardless of cause, well not so much.

new record highs? not sure if you caught my earlier post where i linked the official australian year book where it states a hotter temperature in eighteen eighty nine. if you google what is the hottest day in australia it will still give you the nineteen sixty information, try it. luckily many of us still hold physical media from the past. there is a reason everything is being made digital, because it's easy to edit & records can be changed at will, with physical media that's not the case. they also change many definitions. years ago you wouldn't hear about a heatwave unless it was like more than three days in a row, now they scream it for a hot day

[TitoFan]

Hey guys, leave TIC alone.

He equates one data point with a whole trend. Rock on, dude.

[TIC]

Hey guys, leave TIC alone.

He equates one data point with a whole trend. Rock on, dude.

as usual you are missing the point. spicoli mentioned new record highs. that year book was officially authorized by the government. did you google what the hottest day in australia was? so the question is were the government lying back then or is someone lying now? did you see the spock thing? were the "climate experts" lying then?

[TitoFan]

Hey guys, leave TIC alone.

He equates one data point with a whole trend. Rock on, dude.

as usual you are missing the point. spicoli mentioned new record highs. that year book was officially authorized by the government. did you google what the hottest day in australia was? so the question is were the government lying back then or is someone lying now? did you see the spock thing? were the "climate experts" lying then?

Whose point? Your point? That's not unusual. I'm sure I miss your point lots of times.

Lying... lying... lying. What is your fixation with lying?

The point IS... that more than sufficient data exists that global temperatures are slowly trending up. In any data field there are going to be outliers. Anyone with even a rudimentary knowledge of statistics is going to realize that. The fact that snow fell in Florida does not automatically disprove the notion of global warming. I would get into a serious discussion with you about data... but I doubt you will honestly make an effort to understand it.

Global warming data isn't meant for "the sky is falling" reactions. It's just data. Plain and simple. Why on earth would anyone lie about global temperature data? What does anyone have to gain by it? Global warming is global warming... and climate change is climate change. Unless you're a university taught climatologist, I don't think any of us here are certified experts on climate. We can speculate. We can theorize. But none of us here are experts. We have to go by what the available data says. Of course, unless we're naturally skeptical about EVERYTHING... and can't bring ourselves to accept data at face value. Problem with that approach is, you have to counter it with something. Saying: "I don't believe it. Nyah-nyah-nah-nah-nah" just isn't going to cut it.