RIP Marvelous Marvin Hagler

[Primo Carnera]

I can't recall a big push for Hagler to face Spinks at that time.

i find that strange as i remember back in two thousand one when a roy jones v felix trinidad fight was being seriously discussed. both were pound for pound, roy was at light heavy & felix was a unified jr middleweight champion preparing to go into the middleweight tournament. the plan was for tito to have his two fights & become undisputed at middle & then move up to fight roy

I’m not sure how this correlates with Hagler. Different worlds.
Hagler was not a big MW.
they weighed in the same day back then.
Hagler probably walked the streets at less than 170lbs , so why would he bother fighting at 175?
There isn’t the silly money there is now, but you can safely say Hagler would earn WAY more fighting SRL than he would fighting Michael Spinks.
Spinks as we now know was on his way up the weights.
Like @Master said, I can never remember the Hagler / Spinks fight ever being talked about.

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I can't recall a big push for Hagler to face Spinks at that time.

i find that strange as i remember back in two thousand one when a roy jones v felix trinidad fight was being seriously discussed. both were pound for pound, roy was at light heavy & felix was a unified jr middleweight champion preparing to go into the middleweight tournament. the plan was for tito to have his two fights & become undisputed at middle & then move up to fight roy

I’m not sure how this correlates with Hagler. Different worlds.
Hagler was not a big MW.
they weighed in the same day back then.
Hagler probably walked the streets at less than 170lbs , so why would he bother fighting at 175?
There isn’t the silly money there is now, but you can safely say Hagler would earn WAY more fighting SRL than he would fighting Michael Spinks.
Spinks as we now know was on his way up the weights.
Like @Master said, I can never remember the Hagler / Spinks fight ever being talked about.

it correlates with marvin because there was talk of a smaller guy moving up. i also remember talk that bernard hopkins should have moved up to try & avenge his loss to roy, bernard was trying to set a record for defenses & i think both their egos got in the way. it correlates because there was talk of middleweights moving up to light heavy, so it seems strange that there wasn't any talk of marvin moving up to face michael, especially around late eighty three

marvin was not a big middleweight is an excuse. harry greb, micky walker & sam langford among others are said to be about the same size, didn't they weigh in on the same day back then? different worlds indeed

marvin should have bothered fighting at light heavyweight for the challenge & risk

i agree that marvin would earn more fighting ray than michael, that is my entire point. i give marvin a pass for the last five to six years of his career because he had already cleaned out middleweight by then & was looking for bigger money against lesser challenges

michael spinks became the man at light heavy in early eighty three & didn't move up until late eighty five

like i said it seems strange that marvin v michael was never talked about, as history had many middleweights or smaller moving up to light heavy or higher & as i highlighted roy jones v felix trinidad was being seriously discussed when tito hadn't even fought at middleweight yet & the roy v bernard rematch was also talked about

[Primo Carnera]

I can't recall a big push for Hagler to face Spinks at that time.

i find that strange as i remember back in two thousand one when a roy jones v felix trinidad fight was being seriously discussed. both were pound for pound, roy was at light heavy & felix was a unified jr middleweight champion preparing to go into the middleweight tournament. the plan was for tito to have his two fights & become undisputed at middle & then move up to fight roy

I’m not sure how this correlates with Hagler. Different worlds.
Hagler was not a big MW.
they weighed in the same day back then.
Hagler probably walked the streets at less than 170lbs , so why would he bother fighting at 175?
There isn’t the silly money there is now, but you can safely say Hagler would earn WAY more fighting SRL than he would fighting Michael Spinks.
Spinks as we now know was on his way up the weights.
Like @Master said, I can never remember the Hagler / Spinks fight ever being talked about.

it correlates with marvin because there was talk of a smaller guy moving up. i also remember talk that bernard hopkins should have moved up to try & avenge his loss to roy, bernard was trying to set a record for defenses & i think both their egos got in the way. it correlates because there was talk of middleweights moving up to light heavy, so it seems strange that there wasn't any talk of marvin moving up to face michael, especially around late eighty three

marvin was not a big middleweight is an excuse. harry greb, micky walker & sam langford among others are said to be about the same size, didn't they weigh in on the same day back then? different worlds indeed

marvin should have bothered fighting at light heavyweight for the challenge & risk

i agree that marvin would earn more fighting ray than michael, that is my entire point. i give marvin a pass for the last five to six years of his career because he had already cleaned out middleweight by then & was looking for bigger money against lesser challenges

michael spinks became the man at light heavy in early eighty three & didn't move up until late eighty five

like i said it seems strange that marvin v michael was never talked about, as history had many middleweights or smaller moving up to light heavy or higher & as i highlighted roy jones v felix trinidad was being seriously discussed when tito hadn't even fought at middleweight yet & the roy v bernard rematch was also talked about

Fuck me! This is where I step out again.
If you can’t understand the difference between boxing in the 1900s and the 1980s and then the differences between the 80s and modern day, I can’t help you mate, cos I haven’t got the time or inclination to educate you on it.
Comparing Apples and Oranges mate.
Fucking hell, trying to say Hagler/SRL/Hearns are comparable with Harry Greb,Micky Walker and Sam Langford because they all did same day weigh-ins!!
Dear me. I’m speechless.

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settle down primo carnera, we're just having a discussion

i understand some of the differences between the nineteen hundreds boxing, eighties & modern boxing just fine

i'm not comparing apples & oranges, just giving you some examples of some smaller guys who moved up

"Fucking hell, trying to say Hagler/SRL/Hearns are comparable with Harry Greb,Micky Walker and Sam Langford because they all did same day weigh-ins!!"
you conveniently missed when i said "among others" two of the guys you mention ray leonard & tommy hearns were using same day weigh ins at welter & moved up higher, roberto was the same at lightweight. if marvin had of wanted to move up he could have

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settle down primo carnera, we're just having a discussion

i understand some of the differences between the nineteen hundreds boxing, eighties & modern boxing just fine

i'm not comparing apples & oranges, just giving you some examples of some smaller guys who moved up

"Fucking hell, trying to say Hagler/SRL/Hearns are comparable with Harry Greb,Micky Walker and Sam Langford because they all did same day weigh-ins!!"
you conveniently missed when i said "among others" two of the guys you mention ray leonard & tommy hearns were using same day weigh ins at welter & moved up higher, roberto was the same at lightweight. if marvin had of wanted to move up he could have

[TitoFan]

I see we're still discrediting Hagler with some obscure purpose in mind....

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I see we're still discrediting Hagler with some obscure purpose in mind....

creating a strawman argument again. no one is discrediting anything, as i've said repeatedly. some of you guys just have rose tinted lenses on