Jack Johnson defeating James J Jeffries …….
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Jack Johnson defeating James J Jeffries …….
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Master, an excellent choice—Frazier vs. Ali in the Fight of the Century absolutely lived up to the hype. Two undefeated champions battling for supremacy in a truly historic showdown.
X, Jack Johnson’s win over Jeffries was another monumental moment. That fight, also billed as the Fight of the Century, carried immense historical and racial significance, making it one of the most anticipated bouts ever.
If I may play devil’s advocate on some of the fights mentioned—Schmeling was a former champion and considered past his prime when he faced Louis in the rematch, and Jeffries was coming off a six-year retirement, despite being the betting favorite. Unlike Foreman against Ali, Tyson against Douglas, or Leonard against Duran, they weren’t seen as being at their peak.
Was Ali past his prime going into the first Frazier fight? And should we consider Tyson at his peak against Douglas as well? What do you think?
Duran over Barkley was a masterclass in skill and toughness, Foreman’s KO of Moorer was the ultimate reminder of his power, and Turpin’s victory over Robinson was a historic triumph that shook the sport. Three legendary wins that showcased heart, resilience, and greatness.
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Good questions and people can always criticise any fight if they are inclined and looked hard enough.
All I can say is that Max did not lose to anyone else in between beating and losing to Joe Louis so think he was not that far from his peak at 33 years of age. I never understood why Schmeling did not get the world title shot after he beat undefeated Joe which was only 2 years earlier.
I think X meant Jack Johnson beating the first great white hope and causing race riots across the US was a great win.
Ali was not past his prime going into the first Frazier fight as he had great wins after that fight. Although it could be argued that he was not seasoned/active enough to beat Joe the first time after the ban from the sport.
Mike Tyson career peaked before Douglas when he was with Kevin Rooney. He went downhill after that losing his discipline, desire and spirit. Problems with management, marriage and promoters took their toll on his career and he looked poor against Buster.
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Great thread, and lots of excellent choices.
I would add the first Leonard-Hearns fight. A classic, back-and-forth war between two all-time greats at their absolute peak. The slick boxer, against the dangerous, lanky puncher. Both had their moments in that classic, back when championship fights were still 15 rounds. Leonard prevailed in that fight by TKO, I believe in the 14th round.
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If people say Buster then Ruiz beating AJ needs to be in the conversation. He went the same way as Douglas.
To a lesser degree you could add Riddick Bowe beating an undefeated Evander Holyfield in a classic contest. Big Daddy was phenomenal that night.
Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.
some oldies to consider
harry greb defeating gene tunney
henry armstrong winning the welterweight belt against barney ross
bob fitzsimmons stopping james j corbett maybe?
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