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    Default Re: Can Usyk go to Ali level status?

    Quote Originally Posted by Denilson3.0 View Post
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    Nice write up.
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    But I mean them in terms of the global appeal and iconic status they represent at times of great international upheaval.
    But to have global appeal I think Usyk will suffer from what I call "Novak Djokovic" syndrome in that as great as Novak is, he does not have the same global appeal as Federer or Nadal because of snobbery.

    Federer and Nadal are from countries that are seen as sexy (Switzerland and Spain) where as Novak is a Serb and even though he has surpassed both Federer and Nadal in terms of slams won and many would say he's better player than the both of them. He'll never have their global appeal and it's the same for Usyk. He's from Ukraine (Not seen as a sexy country)

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    Usyk can turn the corner and represent a generation if he wanted to.
    Problem for Usyk is English isn't his first language and English is the dominant language on the planet

    That gives Ali a MASSIVE ADVANTAGE because the world has seen how funny/witty/sharp/outspoken/intelligent/poetic he was where as Usyk's English even now is only a 5 out of 10. Also no other country on the planet exports it's news, sports, music, films as relentless and ferocious that America does. So Ali also has the advantage being born in country that has a louder sound system

    So because of that that meant that Muhammad Ali was at one point more recognizable than the Beatles or Elvis. Ali was the most loved and hated athlete in the history of sports.
    But Usyk is WHITE... plus he is the heavyweight champion... in addition, everyone hates this Russia/Ukraine war. Even with his broken English he can make an impact.
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    Default Re: Can Usyk go to Ali level status?

    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    But Usyk is WHITE
    And ?

    I think you need to think very carefully about what you're going to write next.

    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    ... plus he is the heavyweight champion
    And ?

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    ... in addition, everyone hates this Russia/Ukraine war. Even with his broken English he can make an impact.
    He has made an impact
    Last edited by Denilson3.0; 03-29-2025 at 08:22 PM.

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    Default Re: Can Usyk go to Ali level status?

    Quote Originally Posted by Denilson3.0 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    But Usyk is WHITE
    And ?

    I think you need to think very carefully about what you're going to write next.

    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    ... plus he is the heavyweight champion
    And ?

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    ... in addition, everyone hates this Russia/Ukraine war. Even with his broken English he can make an impact.
    He has made an impact
    Usyk would have a much easier time going over with the media than Ali did during the racist 50s and 60s and 70s America and world. TBTH... Plus, he is the HW champion of the world. He can do more with his platform. He can become a global icon like Ali if he markets himself properly... its all I'm saying.
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    Default Re: Can Usyk go to Ali level status?

    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Denilson3.0 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    But Usyk is WHITE
    And ?

    I think you need to think very carefully about what you're going to write next.

    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    ... plus he is the heavyweight champion
    And ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    ... in addition, everyone hates this Russia/Ukraine war. Even with his broken English he can make an impact.
    He has made an impact
    Usyk would have a much easier time going over with the media than Ali did during the racist 50s and 60s and 70s America and world. TBTH... Plus, he is the HW champion of the world. He can do more with his platform. He can become a global icon like Ali if he markets himself properly... its all I'm saying.
    OK I agree with that. Anyway off the gym now

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    Default Re: Can Usyk go to Ali level status?

    To be fair not many current Ukrainian boxers have been vocal about the war. They have been active in serving their country which matters more like Loma than talking politics.

    Maybe it is a good thing that they have stayed silent with the way the USA and Trump have turned on Ukraine.
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