Joe Joyce v Filip Hrgovic

[Primo Carnera]

The last judge got it right 98-92. 150 power punches landed to the head versus about 30.
Just because Joyce’s head is made of iron doesn’t mean he wins the round.
I would hate to see a brain scan of Joyce and I worry about where he’ll be in 10 years time.

[TIC]

The last judge got it right 98-92. 150 power punches landed to the head versus about 30.
Just because Joyce’s head is made of iron doesn’t mean he wins the round.
I would hate to see a brain scan of Joyce and I worry about where he’ll be in 10 years time.

i could maybe see seven to three at most. joe was more active at times & filip kept going to the ropes. yeah joe might be a mess in a few years but a man has the right to earn his money the way he wants. people put their health at risk everyday in all sorts of ways

[Primo Carnera]

The last judge got it right 98-92. 150 power punches landed to the head versus about 30.
Just because Joyce’s head is made of iron doesn’t mean he wins the round.
I would hate to see a brain scan of Joyce and I worry about where he’ll be in 10 years time.

i could maybe see seven to three at most. joe was more active at times & filip kept going to the ropes. yeah joe might be a mess in a few years but a man has the right to earn his money the way he wants. people put their health at risk everyday in all sorts of ways

See in my my opinion “more active” s meaningless if your opponent is landing 5 times more power punches to the head.
Furthermore a man only has the right to earn money how he wants If he is physically fit to do so.
For Joyce’s own well-being he should have his licence taken away .

[TIC]

The last judge got it right 98-92. 150 power punches landed to the head versus about 30.
Just because Joyce’s head is made of iron doesn’t mean he wins the round.
I would hate to see a brain scan of Joyce and I worry about where he’ll be in 10 years time.

i could maybe see seven to three at most. joe was more active at times & filip kept going to the ropes. yeah joe might be a mess in a few years but a man has the right to earn his money the way he wants. people put their health at risk everyday in all sorts of ways

See in my my opinion “more active” s meaningless if your opponent is landing 5 times more punches.

more active for me means landing more punches

[Primo Carnera]

The last judge got it right 98-92. 150 power punches landed to the head versus about 30.
Just because Joyce’s head is made of iron doesn’t mean he wins the round.
I would hate to see a brain scan of Joyce and I worry about where he’ll be in 10 years time.

i could maybe see seven to three at most. joe was more active at times & filip kept going to the ropes. yeah joe might be a mess in a few years but a man has the right to earn his money the way he wants. people put their health at risk everyday in all sorts of ways

See in my my opinion “more active” s meaningless if your opponent is landing 5 times more punches.

more active for me means landing more punches

Well in that case the stats will show that Joyce wasn’t more active.

[TIC]

The last judge got it right 98-92. 150 power punches landed to the head versus about 30.
Just because Joyce’s head is made of iron doesn’t mean he wins the round.
I would hate to see a brain scan of Joyce and I worry about where he’ll be in 10 years time.

i could maybe see seven to three at most. joe was more active at times & filip kept going to the ropes. yeah joe might be a mess in a few years but a man has the right to earn his money the way he wants. people put their health at risk everyday in all sorts of ways

See in my my opinion “more active” s meaningless if your opponent is landing 5 times more punches.

more active for me means landing more punches

Well in that case the stats will show that Joyce wasn’t more active.

punch stats are rubbish. i trust what i'm seeing. joe was out landing filip in certain rounds

[Spicoli]

That was fugly and not lying a little bit hard to watch. We're getting to a point with some guys where maybe mandatory retirement may be a consideration. Eating punches like that at 40 years old will stay on a man, in every way.

[Primo Carnera]

The last judge got it right 98-92. 150 power punches landed to the head versus about 30.
Just because Joyce’s head is made of iron doesn’t mean he wins the round.
I would hate to see a brain scan of Joyce and I worry about where he’ll be in 10 years time.

i could maybe see seven to three at most. joe was more active at times & filip kept going to the ropes. yeah joe might be a mess in a few years but a man has the right to earn his money the way he wants. people put their health at risk everyday in all sorts of ways

See in my my opinion “more active” s meaningless if your opponent is landing 5 times more punches.

more active for me means landing more punches

Well in that case the stats will show that Joyce wasn’t more active.

punch stats are rubbish. i trust what i'm seeing. joe was out landing filip in certain rounds

Nah he wasn’t . if you count “tippy tappies” versus full on shots on the head, maybe.
Punch stats can be bullshit, for example shots that just touch the target or go past.
But common sense will tell you that the less margin for error is with power shots landed, because they are clean.
Midway through round 6 (roughly halfway through the fight) Hrgovic had landed with 85 power shots JUST TO THE HEAD as opposed to 12 from Joyce.
That is a fucking ridiculous stat.
Let’s not forget that this is a sport and there have to be some acknowledgment to safety and wellbeing.
Joyce wins fights with a freakishly durable chin absorbing a crazy volume of shots, which tires the other fighter and he then bowls them over.
While you can applaud that if you like, for his own safety it shouldn’t be allowed.
Just because those shots aren’t concussing him like they would normal people, it doesn’t mean they are not damaging his head long term.

[Denilson3.0]

High quality chins & hearts, low quality everything else. Not sure where Joe goes from here. Sounds like he wants to go on. Why ? To be food for Itauma ? To fight Johnny Fischer ? Seriously where can he go ? He should retire, yes he's very lucid and talks fluid but I can see a James Toney / Tommy Hearns speech coming in later years.

[TIC]

High quality chins & hearts, low quality everything else. Not sure where Joe goes from here. Sounds like he wants to go on. Why ? To be food for Itauma ? To fight Johnny Fischer ? Seriously where can he go ? He should retire, yes he's very lucid and talks fluid but I can see a James Toney speech coming in later years.

what else can he do to make the sort of money he does fighting? i'm not sure if he has been smart with his money, hopefully he has. but if he hasn't then fighting is his best bet to set up his family

[Denilson3.0]

what else can he do to make the sort of money he does fighting? i'm not sure if he has been smart with his money, hopefully he has. but if he hasn't then fighting is his best bet to set up his family

If you are 1-4 in the last 5 fights, it's time to rethink your position. Joyce said after he fight "I’ve still got my wits about me"

Isn't THAT the time to retire?

So you keep your wits about you?

He's already 39yo and has had a STELLAR amateur career has ALMOST won a world title having captured the WBO Interim belt.

He can retire knowing he STOPPED 2 former world champions in Parker & Dubois and the fact that someone as basic as Joyce has done all that ?

ASTOUNDING.

But that's HW boxing I guess, you don't have to be as skilled as the lower weights

I don't know his financial situation and yes I agree, I doubt he has made enough money to last him the rest pf his life but very few fighters do

[TIC]

"Isn't THAT the time to retire?"

for me the time to retire is when joe wants to or he can no longer get licensed. if he could get a comms job (not sure that's suited for him) or open a gym, that'd be great. these people saying joe needs to retire should stfu, unless they are offering him another means of income that is equal to what he makes in the ring

[Primo Carnera]

"Isn't THAT the time to retire?"

for me the time to retire is when joe wants to or he can no longer get licensed. if he could get a comms job (not sure that's suited for him) or open a gym, that'd be great. these people saying joe needs to retire should stfu, unless they are offering him another means of income that is equal to what he makes in the ring

Said by someone who doesn’t give a fuck about him or any other boxer as long as he gets to watch.
This ain’t the fucking colosseum mate, we’re supposed to have moved on by now.

[TIC]

i've never said i don't give a fuck about joe or any other boxer. i just prefer every adult be free to choose how they live their life. i can care & not agree with their choices, doesn't mean i want to take away their freedoms. as far as i am aware joe is not being forced to fight, he is making the choice to fight. you seem to think you have a higher claim over another man's life & can tell him what he's allowed to do with it. sounds like slavery, we're supposed to have moved on from that by now