Fabio Wardley v Jarrell Miller

[Primo Carnera]

I have not heard of Huni.

really? it's not like i haven't mentioned him on here for at least the last four years

I was literally just about to say the same! Anyway, according to @Master ‘s boxing mantra , if he ain’t British or a Widely recognised ATG, he’s shite!

Anyway @TIC, who do you reckon wins?

[TIC]

right now before training camps & weigh ins i really see this as a fifty fifty fight. i think each guy is the others best opponent so far in their careers. justis' chin has me concerned against fabio's power but i also think fabio hasn't faced anyone with the technical boxing ability & fundamentals as justis. can justis avoid that power for all twelve rounds? can fabio catch justis? if fabio does hurt justis can him finish him? this is a really good fight & i'm glad the fight got made. watch the tenth round of justis v kevin lerena to see him hurt & wobbled. kevin also hurt & dropped daniel dubois, so that has to be weighed in. there is also sparring footage of justis being sparked, his team spun a story that he entered the ring with a hidden concussion, so who knows what the truth is there. right now if pushed for a prediction i think fabio hurts him at some point & jumps on him to get the stoppage but in the next thought i switch back to justis outboxing fabio with a few tough moments along the way to a decision. like i said fifty fifty

[Master]

Fabio wins stoppage mid round. Huni is a dangerous fight now that I have researched him although not as high profile as loud mouth Baby fat Miller.

[Primo Carnera]

right now before training camps & weigh ins i really see this as a fifty fifty fight. i think each guy is the others best opponent so far in their careers. justis' chin has me concerned against fabio's power but i also think fabio hasn't faced anyone with the technical boxing ability & fundamentals as justis. can justis avoid that power for all twelve rounds? can fabio catch justis? if fabio does hurt justis can him finish him? this is a really good fight & i'm glad the fight got made. watch the tenth round of justis v kevin lerena to see him hurt & wobbled. kevin also hurt & dropped daniel dubois, so that has to be weighed in. there is also sparring footage of justis being sparked, his team spun a story that he entered the ring with a hidden concussion, so who knows what the truth is there. right now if pushed for a prediction i think fabio hurts him at some point & jumps on him to get the stoppage but in the next thought i switch back to justis outboxing fabio with a few tough moments along the way to a decision. like i said fifty fifty

Nice Breakdown. Personally from what I’ve seen and heard about Huni, I would fancy him to outbox Wardley to a fairly convincing points victory.
Gonna start by saying I like Wardley, he’s a bright articulate guy , has got some cojones , has a great back story and is learning at a decent pace.
BUT, I think he is extremely overrated (not his fault) . I don’t mean to be horrible, but he is a British level fairground style fighter.
How he can be in any governing body’s top 10 IN THE WORLD is beyond me.
It’s a big old World and there must be better guys out there.
But hey, I would be very happy to be proved wrong as I do like the guy and good luck to him.
Now if you were to say “Moses Itauma”, that’s another story. That guy is THE REAL DEAL.

[TIC]

i think you're being a bit hard on fabio. his rematch with frazer didn't change some of what you thought of fabio? i remember you saying that you didn't think he could change much from the first fight & he came out & blitzed frazer in a round. i guess you did acknowledge that he's learning. as for moses, i agree, he's a talent but i need to see him in with a contender level guy before i can say if he's the real deal. right now i'd take justis over moses

[Primo Carnera]

i think you're being a bit hard on fabio. his rematch with frazer didn't change some of what you thought of fabio? i remember you saying that you didn't think he could change much from the first fight & he came out & blitzed frazer in a round. i guess you did acknowledge that he's learning. as for moses, i agree, he's a talent but i need to see him in with a contender level guy before i can say if he's the real deal. right now i'd take justis over moses

What you say is fair. But I truly felt that Clarke was a way better boxer in the first fight, but Wardley showed courage. In the second fight, I got it wrong, but in the Heavyweights if you catch someone clean , they’re getting KO’d. And sometimes it happens early or not at all.
I don’t want to say “lucky punch” , but you don’t turn from a slugger into a top class boxer…..unless you’re Rocky Balboa.
And I disagree about Justis and Itauma.
He hasn’t got a boat load of experience , but his resume is probably better than Huni’s.
And a lot of people in the game over here think very highly of him from spars he’s had with top guys.

[TIC]

i agree that frazer was the better boxer. i also agree that with heavyweights often times a clean shot can end things. i like fabio’s finishing instincts. if he hurts you, he’ll finish you, that’s not always the case with fighters. i’m not sure anyone is saying fabio has turned into a top class boxer but he knows how to best use his abilities to land his power. we can disagree on justis v moses. while moses may have a boat load of experience, so does justis. justis also started out fighting ten rounders. i disagree that moses has a better record than justis’. moses’ best opponent is probably a shot to bits mariusz wach. justis has former league legend paul gallen, nothing special as a boxer but extremely tough & was unbeaten in twelve fights with wins over lucas browne & mark hunt. kiki toa leutele, a tough kiwi who deserved a win over demsey mckean, andrew tabiti & kevin lerena. i am aware of most high profile amateurs, especially at the commonwealth & olympic level & thought moses was an outstanding signing for queensbury. justis was an olympic medal hopeful over here before an injury forced him out. moses is taking on mike balogun next, justis is stepping in to fight fabio. i don’t think moses has fought anyone even on andrew tabiti’s level yet let alone kevin lerena’s. we haven’t even seen him fight past six rounds yet. moses could be the real deal, all i’m saying is let’s see him against some contenders before making that call

[Master]

Huni was hurt by Kevin Lerena in the last round but showed heart to survive.

[Primo Carnera]

i agree that frazer was the better boxer. i also agree that with heavyweights often times a clean shot can end things. i like fabio’s finishing instincts. if he hurts you, he’ll finish you, that’s not always the case with fighters. i’m not sure anyone is saying fabio has turned into a top class boxer but he knows how to best use his abilities to land his power. we can disagree on justis v moses. while moses may have a boat load of experience, so does justis. justis also started out fighting ten rounders. i disagree that moses has a better record than justis’. moses’ best opponent is probably a shot to bits mariusz wach. justis has former league legend paul gallen, nothing special as a boxer but extremely tough & was unbeaten in twelve fights with wins over lucas browne & mark hunt. kiki toa leutele, a tough kiwi who deserved a win over demsey mckean, andrew tabiti & kevin lerena. i am aware of most high profile amateurs, especially at the commonwealth & olympic level & thought moses was an outstanding signing for queensbury. justis was an olympic medal hopeful over here before an injury forced him out. moses is taking on mike balogun next, justis is stepping in to fight fabio. i don’t think moses has fought anyone even on andrew tabiti’s level yet let alone kevin lerena’s. we haven’t even seen him fight past six rounds yet. moses could be the real deal, all i’m saying is let’s see him against some contenders before making that call

It’s actually a shame Justis isn’t fighting Itauma. We’ll just have to agree to disagree until they meet one day.
Believe me, I’m not one to go over the top on prospects, especially Brits because they get overhyped to the max anyway.