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    Default I never thought...

    ... We would see someone better than Floyd Mayweather's record and reputation. But, I said it before and will say it again. Terence "Bud" Crawford is BETTER than Floyd Mayweather. But not by much... All respect to Money Mayweather.

    Do you think Crawford has a chance against David Benavidez? lololol... That may be a bit much for Crawford, I believe?! What do you think?
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    Default Re: I never thought...

    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    ... We would see someone better than Floyd Mayweather's record and reputation. But, I said it before and will say it again. Terence "Bud" Crawford is BETTER than Floyd Mayweather. But not by much... All respect to Money Mayweather.

    Do you think Crawford has a chance against David Benavidez? lololol... That may be a bit much for Crawford, I believe?! What do you think?
    I think Crawford should call it quits.

    He has proved himself to be an ATG without question.

    He shouldn't be going anywhere near Benavidez.

    Crawford may have the ring IQ and skills to match up with Benavidez, but you can be rest assured that David isn't going to be one dimensional, telegraphing his punches and relying on single power shots.

    He's young, he's big, he's powerful and he's dangerous.
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    Default Re: I never thought...

    Quote Originally Posted by Syntax Error View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    ... We would see someone better than Floyd Mayweather's record and reputation. But, I said it before and will say it again. Terence "Bud" Crawford is BETTER than Floyd Mayweather. But not by much... All respect to Money Mayweather.

    Do you think Crawford has a chance against David Benavidez? lololol... That may be a bit much for Crawford, I believe?! What do you think?
    I think Crawford should call it quits.

    He has proved himself to be an ATG without question.

    He shouldn't be going anywhere near Benavidez.

    Crawford may have the ring IQ and skills to match up with Benavidez, but you can be rest assured that David isn't going to be one dimensional, telegraphing his punches and relying on single power shots.

    He's young, he's big, he's powerful and he's dangerous.
    Yea. BoMac said no to Benavidez too. lolol... I don't blame him. Benavidez mayswell continue to camp out at LH and fight Bivol or Beterbiev now. it's his only options.
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    Default Re: I never thought...

    I feel the only fight out there for Crawford would be a Canelo rematch where he would command a much bigger purse slice. (If both parties even wanted the fight) nothing else makes sense. It’s that or retire in my opinion.
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    Default Re: I never thought...

    So glad Crawford beat Canelo.

    Bud record is very unappreciated and he has always had to chase the big fights without being able to command the huge purses to get them made.

    Crawford said he will not go up in weight to light heavyweight and will not go down to light middleweight to face Ennis.

    P4P Crawford has a better record than Floyd now.
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    Default Re: I never thought...

    I would say go down to 160, which Bud himself has mentioned. But his age is certainly a factor that works against him. Also, after having beaten Canelo... maybe retirement isn't such a bad thing.
    I'd love to see him in the ring again, though.

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    Default Re: I never thought...

    What if GGG were to come back to face Crawford at 160lbs? Could that even be wildly possible? lol... Who could coax GGG out of retirement for that?
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    Default Re: I never thought...

    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    What if GGG were to come back to face Crawford at 160lbs? Could that even be wildly possible? lol... Who could coax GGG out of retirement for that?
    There is no undisputed middleweight champion for Crawford to challenge.

    The most dangerous challenge is the unified champion Janibek Alimkhanuly. I do not think the other champs Carlos Adames or Erislandy Lara hold much attraction for Bud.

    Golovkin is long since retired after losing to Canelo and would not be of no interest for Crawford.

    The most money would be a rematch against Alvarez.
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    Default Re: I never thought...

    I’ve spent these days thinking about May 2018, Vasyl Lomachenko passing Crawford on P4P lists after beating Linares. Crawford was a 3 division champion at the time, he had become undisputed at 140 along the way. There was no good reason to put Vasyl above Crawford. Loma great as he was didn’t beat the best guys at 126, 130 OR 135. And he easily could have fought Berchelt at 130, Berchelt was begging for it or Mikey at 135, also begging for it.

    Even though Crawford was the more accomplished man at the time it was absolutely impossible to get people to give Crawford his due. “He….” Always something, always.

    He beat ass. He was a great fighter. And now and forever all those that refused to give him his due have to STFU when it comes to Crawford and I absolutely love it.And I hope some take a moment to personally reflect about why they always had a reason to tear down this great fighter

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    Default Re: I never thought...

    As far as Floyd I can think Bud def has the better reputation and overall fan grabbing appeal and would pick him to beat Floyd maybe in a 147 window. But I don't think he tops Floyd's record scalp for scalp overall. I've always liked Bud but the inactivity level drove me crazy and imo think he cut himself short. Certainly zero reason to think he suddenly gets active now off a Canelo W and at 38 years old. But would love to see him dip into 160. A seriously dead division with a Janibek v Adames unification, a very solid fan friendly match up, that feels like it would have already come off in the days of HBO and Showtime. Maybe even twice by now. Talk of Benavidez is just no thanks. Tired of these unnecessary names for the sake of name division conflations and boxing not positioning itself for the coming years. 175 has its own huge fights not being made quick enough and the Bivol v Beterbiev trilogy with "Benavidez gets winner" in la la land. Then again, if Crawford also announces retirement next month it's not at all shocking being honest.

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    Default Re: I never thought...

    bud retiring?
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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    Default Re: I never thought...

    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    ... We would see someone better than Floyd Mayweather's record and reputation. But, I said it before and will say it again. Terence "Bud" Crawford is BETTER than Floyd Mayweather. But not by much... All respect to Money Mayweather.

    Do you think Crawford has a chance against David Benavidez? lololol... That may be a bit much for Crawford, I believe?! What do you think?
    Don’t you think it’s interesting how Floyd is always the one they compare to ?

    Not Ali. Not SRR. Not JCC.

    It's always Floyd. Floyd is the bar.

    It shows why Floyd is arguably the GOAT.

    Stop being a prisoner of the moment

    You done forgot who Floyd was

    Anybody who thinks Crawford beats Floyd easy is automatically a delusional run-of-the-mill boxing drunkard who is on the lowest of Roger Mayweather's "know sh&t about boxing" tier.

    At 135 ? No one dead or alive beats Floyd. Floyd at 135 would be hell for Bud. But Bud at 147 ? That could be Floyd's toughest fight ever

    The problem for Bud is he fights at Floyd’s pace which is fine if you can control the outside and try and turn Floyd into a front foot pressure fighter which the Conor McGregor fight showed is not Floyd’s thing

    But the fight would be a counter puncher vs a counter puncher and Bud would crack first and become the aggressor and even if he didn’t and it turned into a chess match when Floyd becomes defence heavy, risk free Floyd, he doesnt lose. Floyd is just all wrong for Crawford. Superior speed, timing, and defense wins.

    You'll NEVER beat Floyd at his own game.

    Crawford benefits heavily from fighting fighters who don't move their head. He makes everyone pay for that and did it to Canelo many times. Floyd moves his head. I think Crawford benefits from not fighting anyone who is faster than him. That's how Gamboa gave him problems. Floyd is not going to be there for those counters that Bud likes to land. It would be a good fight but I ultimately think he’d get out boxed. Floyd would bring too much to the table with how he varies his attacks, his speed, defence and footwork.

    And then when you look at their resumes, Bud is comfortably behind not just Floyd but Pac-Man too.

    It’s not Bud's fault, but he wasn’t able to get a lot of food on the table at welter not to mention he’s fought once a year for like 6 years. So what hurts Bud is the resume. The accolades are great but who you beat is always a heavy factor when determining greatness.

    Floyd but no matter how you look at it, the difference in overall caliber of opponents between the two is huge.

    If Crawford had more/better names it would be a serious discussion for me.

    The common opponent they have Canelo

    Canelo was 23 years old with 43 professional fights when he lost to Floyd (who was 45-0) and out of his prime at the age of 36.......yet somehow Canelo was too young and inexperienced

    Floyd fought a younger more energetic version of Canelo while Crawford fought an older, yet seasoned versioned of Canelo

    Crawford vs Canelo was more of a fight. Floyd vs Canelo was like watching someone playing on them playschool basketball hoops with their 6-year-old nephew.

    One problem I have with Canelo is that he accepts defeat too easily, it’s like he says to himself “Ok I’m getting out boxed here, but I’m not gonna put it all on the line to get the win. I’ll just cruise to a respectable UD loss, and we can restart the Canelo train again in 6 months without too much damage to the brand"

    That's why Bud needs to fight a

    • Boots,
    • Vergil Ortiz,
    • Haney,
    • Jannibek
    • Shakur

    There's plenty of WAR out there Bud. But you gotta FIND war if you truly want it. A rematch with Canelo IS NOT WAR.

    Fight elite guys on this list because they're starving they WONT do a canelo and be content to cruise to UD loss. Those guys will fight Bud till hell freezes over and then carry on fighting him on the ice. That’s what Bud need if he wants to be on Floyd’s level and unless you're from Omaha surely you’ll agree with this

    Bottom line is Crawford has far too much ground to make up if he wants to be considered anywhere near Mayweather's pedigree. Floyd’s resume is stacked from start to finish and once the initial excitement dies down over Bud I think the consensus will reflect that
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    Default Re: I never thought...

    I always thought Crawford was the real thing as a fighter.

    Didnt come from a hotbed of boxing, didn’t do trash talk or YouTube, was inactive a bit too much for my liking, didn’t bring in the big gates or PPVs so was avoided whenever possible.

    Great great ring IQ, wonderful technique, always well prepared and trained, relentless in the ring and a true all time great.

    The 21st Century’s Marvin Hagler …..

    Happy retirement champ
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