Today in Trump

[TitoFan]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...eace-Gaza.html


So Trump was snubbed by the Nobel Peace Prize Committee.

Depending on which article you read and where it comes from, it's either a "grave injustice" or a deserved "comeuppance. Me? I'm firmly planted on the latter.

Where oh where do we start?

Oh yeah....



How about this?

GROVELING AFTER AN AWARD DECIDED UPON BY A THIRD PARTY IS UNBECOMING NOT JUST OF A POTUS... BUT OF ANYBODY.

Forget "unbecoming."

How about PATHETIC? PITIFUL? CLASSLESS? Take your pick.



Kudos to the Committee for ignoring what I'm sure amounted to pressure from The Orangutan and his Minions.

How in HELL would any Committee member in his right mind entertain awarding a prize such as this to the world's biggest bully??

I've comments of people saying that would render the Prize worthless... and they're absolutely RIGHT.

We're talking about the moron who incited an insurrection in the nation's capital on January 6th, after stirring up his Minions with bogus claims of a stolen election.

We're talking about the moron who is sending troops into (cough) "war-ravaged" Portland, Oregon for who knows what.

We're talking about the moron who plainly said he HATES his enemies (direct quote).

We're talking about the moron who unilaterally blew up two boats coming from Venezuela. (Because detaining them was too much trouble).


And this MORON has the gall to demand the Nobel Peace Prize??!!??

I hope this snub BURNS a hole in his gut.

[Spicoli]

I think the dementia is setting in with our tangerine overlord. One thing, the apple polishers who actually fell for 'the peace president' must feel like fools. Big uptick in military spending and ordering B-2 manufacturing. The corruption with Quatar could not be clearer, receives a 500 million dollar plane and then building for new Trump construction (more) now permitted over there. Also announced construction of a Qatar training base within the US, which went over like a wet turd with even some of his biggest supporters in the media world. It's not uncommon for co-training with "allies" in the States but gave the impression this was a separate independent facility. The same Qatar he and the entire US government designated a sponsor of Hamas terrorism. Day by day. Be a shame if his next midnight bucket of chicken came with 1 bone too many.

[TitoFan]

I think the dementia is setting in with our tangerine overlord. One thing, the apple polishers who actually fell for 'the peace president' must feel like fools. Big uptick in military spending and ordering B-2 manufacturing. The corruption with Quatar could not be clearer, receives a 500 million dollar plane and then building for new Trump construction (more) now permitted over there. Also announced construction of a Qatar training base within the US, which went over like a wet turd with even some of his biggest supporters in the media world. It's not uncommon for co-training with "allies" in the States but gave the impression this was a separate independent facility. The same Qatar he and the entire US government designated a sponsor of Hamas terrorism. Day by day. Be a shame if his next midnight bucket of chicken came with 1 bone too many.

I have to believe Trump support has fallen off to the point where only MAGA cultists remain. The ones who would defend him even if he were to "shoot someone in the middle of 5th Avenue" like he once infamously prophesied.

But it's a bit late, IMO. You can't put the genie back into the bottle.

The divisive hate openly spewed by the Racist-in-Chief has brought all the DEPLORABLES (yes... Hillary was right, regardless of how unlikeable she was herself) out from under their rocks... and the damage is either permanent, or is going to take long years to undo.

Trump knows he no longer has to disguise his corrosive B.S.... so he just blurts it out. Daring the decent folks to protest.

Notice how the tiny pro-Trump faction in Saddo is nowhere to be seen, and has been M.I.A. for some time now.

[TIC]

you guys still have to pay taxes while the government is shutdown? bwahaha what are great scam. stop voting for one & stop paying taxes to fund the ponzi, make your money outside the system

[Master]

I hope the No Kings movement topples the self appointed king

[TIC]

those in the no kings movement are retards, they still want to be ruled by their guys just not by the other guys, that's not freedom, it's just another flavour of tyranny

[TitoFan]

Well..... until the U.S. establishes a system of anarchy, which probably won't happen anytime soon... it's either one or the other.

In the case of Trump, he's proven many times over that he's unfit to rule ANYTHING... much less a country.

[Master]

Well..... until the U.S. establishes a system of anarchy, which probably won't happen anytime soon... it's either one or the other.

In the case of Trump, he's proven many times over that he's unfit to rule ANYTHING... much less a country.

It is corruption, dictatorship, and disdain for the people. No one deserves that even if you were stupid enough to vote for the idiot.

[TitoFan]

Well..... until the U.S. establishes a system of anarchy, which probably won't happen anytime soon... it's either one or the other.

In the case of Trump, he's proven many times over that he's unfit to rule ANYTHING... much less a country.

It is corruption, dictatorship, and disdain for the people. No one deserves that even if you were stupid enough to vote for the idiot.

The problem is that the MAGA cult continues to defend him. He's reached the point that no matter what he does... his cultists defend him.

The country is broken.

[TIC]

the problem is the strange dis-ease of people wanting to be ruled & wanting as to be ruled as well

[TIC]

Well..... until the U.S. establishes a system of anarchy, which probably won't happen anytime soon... it's either one or the other.

In the case of Trump, he's proven many times over that he's unfit to rule ANYTHING... much less a country.

you don't change the system you change the people

[TitoFan]

Well..... until the U.S. establishes a system of anarchy, which probably won't happen anytime soon... it's either one or the other.

In the case of Trump, he's proven many times over that he's unfit to rule ANYTHING... much less a country.

you don't change the system you change the people

What's your point?




By definition, a lack of a government is anarchy. Not my definition... theirs. So by not wanting to be "ruled" by anyone, you favor a system of anarchy.

So how do you go about changing 300 million people to believe in anarchy? (Since you said you don't change the system, but the people).

Just curious...

[TIC]

my point is you don't change the system like you said "until the U.S. establishes a system of anarchy" you change the peoples mindset

the etymology of anarchy basically means without a ruler, having no ruler, i favour not having a ruler

there's no need to change the mindset of three million peoples mindset, once around ten percent start understanding that no one has the right to ruler over another person & therefore no group of people have the right to rule over another group of people, things will fall apart very quickly. you plant seeds in peoples minds that it is immoral for some people to rule over others & that anything that is not consensual or voluntary or that you are not able to opt out of is immoral. if thirty million people stopped paying their taxes & making money under the table, there's not much the government could do, first they would have to process all those people & even if that was possible, there is nowhere to hold them. once others start realizing that thirty million people are doing this & basically nothing can be done, others will jump on board, from there it's a very quick demise for the government. if even one percent of that ten percent resisted violently the irs would have sever doubts about turning up to collect. problem is too many still want to be ruled, like yourself & you want others to be ruled as well, after centuries of brainwashing you think it's normal. so people like myself continue to trade through black (free) markets & live outside the system, spreading seeds of freedom, hopeful that our children, grand children & great grand children might one day enjoy a life outside tyranny & authoritarianism. until people start to realize that what's moral & what's immoral is more important than what is legal or illegal they'll continue to be slaves on the plantation & prisoners in a prison without walls, as aldous huxley said

[TitoFan]

problem is too many still want to be ruled, like yourself & you want others to be ruled as well, after centuries of brainwashing you think it's normal

I knew eventually you'd get to this.

The basic difference between you and I is that you seem to have more faith in people's ability to live within the basic principles of right and wrong (or good and evil, whichever you prefer). You feel that people, if left alone without laws, will naturally live orderly lives, respecting the rights of other people and other institutions. You feel people have the wisdom to recognize the boundaries that should exist in society.

If that's the case, I can understand your belief in anarchy.

I, on the other hand, have no such faith in people in general. Exhibit A (and B, C, D, etc., etc.) is the behavior of people in the States, increasingly under the two Trump administrations. Racism, hatred toward others, and censorship have become mainstream. People who used to be able to debate policy are now woefully unable to debate anything at all. It's all devolved into ugliness and mudslinging. I have ZERO faith in humanity's ability to govern themselves. Which is why laws are enacted and enforced. If governments were wise, they would make laws that benefited all people regardless of beliefs or positions in society. Sadly... the governments lately aren't any better than the brainless people who can't think for themselves and are devoid of any morals or character.

"Brainwashing" is the wrong word here. More like life experience, watching people at their absolute worst.

[TIC]

no the basic difference between us is that you believe some people should rule over other people & tell them what they can & can't do against their will with threats of violence if they don't, while i think the affairs of our lives in every interaction should be conducted under a voluntary, non force, consensual basis

i don't feel that people, if left alone without laws, will naturally live orderly lives, respecting the rights of other people, some may but i agree with you that there will always be some who choose to do evil, the fact is that laws have never & will never stop this

i have said before that politics is inherently divisive. what's legal is not always moral & what is illegal is not always immoral. for me it's better to be a moralist than a conformist

brainwashing may not be the right term but you have been born into this system & propagandized into believing that democracy is moral, when it's the opposite where the majority tell the minority what they can & can't do against their will with the threat of violence for refusing. that is completely illogical, if i have more people that agree with me than you do on something that doesn't make it moral for us to force you to do as we say & if you don't you'll be punished. that is immoral & is exactly what democracy is

off topic but just look at the definition of extortion, that is exactly what taxation is

also thanks for the civil discussion