Joseph Parker v Fabio Wardley

[Spicoli]

Well missed what sounds like what turned into a very solid fight, appreciate the fill in and rbr. Saw some highlights and looked like youth prevailed and Wardley did exactly what you want a greenish young fighter to do. Grab the chance for all it's worth vs a legit top guy, that's why they fight the fights. Talk about a rocket pack strapped to your back for Wardley. Goes from unranked to now the mandatory by the same org and calling for Usyk. Slowly but surely this current division is finally turning the page on the elders but still see Usyk remaining the exception and still holding the door. On a side not and again, these top division fights of their era would be so much more massive and rewarding long term with more eyes and growing fans. But this on an atrocious undercard and PPV is a massive shame. Dazn is sheltering boxing almost back into a shadow sport imo especially stateside. Back to back to back PPV on top of raising fees and remaining fans run straight to streams or sticks, can't blame them, it's a deteriorating spiral. Off his biggest win hope Wardley gets another top scalp in the UK rather than back to Saudi and he blows the roof off the place at home.

[TIC]

this fight was hidden behind essentially two pay walls, dazn subscription & then pay per view, this ain't how the sport grows

just to touch on something primo carnera brought up about joseph having a false confidence, i really think he started to believe that he had become a big puncher & you could see his aggressiveness increasing in the deontay & martin fights, when his best assets were always boxing smart like he did for most of the zhilie fight

[Master]

Joseph Parker has evolved into a more aggressive boxer and he has bulked up accordingly. I do not think Parker would have beaten Wilder and Zhang on the back foot. He fought smart, timed the attacks and was successful with this adapted style.

Parker was hurt in the 2nd round and spat out his gumshield, he could have done the same in the 11th round, held Wardley or taken a knee to buy some time to recover. He is experienced enough to know better.

Joseph can still set up some big matches and is far from finished. He has a more pleasing entertaining style that many fans will watch. Parker would not be afraid to take on Moses or Agit.

[TIC]

deontay was shot to bits which is why joseph was aggressive in that fight, he used movement against zhilie & fought smart, the times he didn't he got dropped & of course he's going to be aggressive against a guy who hadn't trained & had just got off the plane. i believe joseph started to believe his own hype, even the way he was talking, about getting the knockout, he had the wrong mindset based on the false confidence those fights had given him in my opinion

[Primo Carnera]

deontay was shot to bits which is why joseph was aggressive in that fight, he used movement against zhilie & fought smart, the times he didn't he got dropped & of course he's going to be aggressive against a guy who hadn't trained & had just got off the plane. i believe joseph started to believe his own hype, even the way he was talking, about getting the knockout, he had the wrong mindset based on the false confidence those fights had given him in my opinion

Yep totally agree. And you’re not likely to successfully change the type of fighter you are at his age.

[Master]

deontay was shot to bits which is why joseph was aggressive in that fight, he used movement against zhilie & fought smart, the times he didn't he got dropped & of course he's going to be aggressive against a guy who hadn't trained & had just got off the plane. i believe joseph started to believe his own hype, even the way he was talking, about getting the knockout, he had the wrong mindset based on the false confidence those fights had given him in my opinion

Yep totally agree. And you’re not likely to successfully change the type of fighter you are at his age.

Parker needed to back Wilder up and command his respect even if he was shot. Deontay was the firm favourite coming into that fight.

Parker was the better boxer against Wardley and was winning the contest. He just got caught and it can happen in the heavyweight division.

[TIC]

joseph didn't need to back deontay up to get his respect, deontay was barely throwing anything. deontay was the favourite going in but some were already questioning where he was at, he had only fought one round since being stopped twice & had been out of the ring for over a year

joseph was the better boxer at times & i had him winning, he got caught because he was trading too much when he should have been using his movement & boxing smart & his weight probably contributed to him being more stationary in the later rounds

[Spicoli]

this fight was hidden behind essentially two pay walls, dazn subscription & then pay per view, this ain't how the sport grows

just to touch on something primo carnera brought up about joseph having a false confidence, i really think he started to believe that he had become a big puncher & you could see his aggressiveness increasing in the deontay & martin fights, when his best assets were always boxing smart like he did for most of the zhilie fight

On the first been saying it for a while now. Also this on PPV was basically doing the sport overall sabotage. Certainly not welcoming or casually opening up to new fans.

Sound like a broken record but adding it up I have missed more boxing over the last 3,4 years than over the last 3 decades combined. And it's not an exaggeration . It's very bad stateside.

[Master]

@Spicoli you need to get a firestick with the app. You get to see everything. I took it to Australia and watched Usyk v Dubois and Manny Pac challenge for the title and Tszyu get stopped in the morning. The younger adults watched and loved it all and that is how you win fans and get them interested.

I left the firestick there for them as that was my spare one. It only costs £50 for the year. Great value for money.

[Spicoli]

@Spicoli you need to get a firestick with the app. You get to see everything. I took it to Australia and watched Usyk v Dubois and Manny Pac challenge for the title and Tszyu get stopped in the morning. The younger adults watched and loved it all and that is how you win fans and get them interested.

I left the firestick there for them as that was my spare one. It only costs £50 for the year. Great value for money.

Definitely going to look into it. We now live in an era where competitive cooking shows outnumber high level boxing in weekend primetime and well that's just depressing . A shame fans need to work around is all, rather than a straightforward reliable platform not trying to bleed fans via multiple money grabs on any given card. Especially after coming in proclaiming "PPV is dead" . Thanks for the heads up.

[TIC]

this fight was hidden behind essentially two pay walls, dazn subscription & then pay per view, this ain't how the sport grows

just to touch on something primo carnera brought up about joseph having a false confidence, i really think he started to believe that he had become a big puncher & you could see his aggressiveness increasing in the deontay & martin fights, when his best assets were always boxing smart like he did for most of the zhilie fight

On the first been saying it for a while now. Also this on PPV was basically doing the sport overall sabotage. Certainly not welcoming or casually opening up to new fans.

Sound like a broken record but adding it up I have missed more boxing over the last 3,4 years than over the last 3 decades combined. And it's not an exaggeration . It's very bad stateside.

you have top rank showing live cards on tubi

if you need live stream links or fight vids for something you missed just yell out

boxing hasn't been helping itself recently, i've found my interest waning over the last few months, there's a small glimmer as there are some good fights to end out the year (bam v puma tops my list) & already some good match ups in play for the early part of next year

[Spicoli]

this fight was hidden behind essentially two pay walls, dazn subscription & then pay per view, this ain't how the sport grows

just to touch on something primo carnera brought up about joseph having a false confidence, i really think he started to believe that he had become a big puncher & you could see his aggressiveness increasing in the deontay & martin fights, when his best assets were always boxing smart like he did for most of the zhilie fight

On the first been saying it for a while now. Also this on PPV was basically doing the sport overall sabotage. Certainly not welcoming or casually opening up to new fans.

Sound like a broken record but adding it up I have missed more boxing over the last 3,4 years than over the last 3 decades combined. And it's not an exaggeration . It's very bad stateside.

you have top rank showing live cards on tubi

if you need live stream links or fight vids for something you missed just yell out

boxing hasn't been helping itself recently, i've found my interest waning over the last few months, there's a small glimmer as there are some good fights to end out the year (bam v puma tops my list) & already some good match ups in play for the early part of next year

Appreciate that bud. Yeh went to check out the Thursday card on Pluto but at the last minute they apparently had a problem and wasn't there. At this stage back with an HBO etc. a mega fight division unification like Bam v Puma would be standing alone and properly blowing up. It is a very solid card no doubt, going to have to bite the bullet on that one.

[TIC]

joseph likes the sniffy sniffy

[Master]

Former world heavyweight champion Joseph Parker is facing a possible ban from boxing after testing positive for cocaine.

The 33-year-old New Zealander failed a drugs test on the day of his fight with Fabio Wardley on 26 October, according to the Sun., external

He was tested by the Voluntary Anti Doping Agency (Vada) on 25 October.

Sources have confirmed to BBC Sport Parker tested positive for the recreational drug and not performance enhancing drugs.

Parker could receive a two-year ban but could also be suspended for as little as three months depending on circumstances.

Any ban would be handed down by UK Anti-Doping (Ukad) and the British Boxing Board of Control (BBBC).

Ukad, however, did not administer this test and will need to conduct its own investigation.

Queensberry have been informed by Vada about the failed test.

The BBC has contacted Vada, Parker's promoters Queensberry and the BBBC for comment.

Boxer Liam Cameron was given a four-year ban in 2019 for testing positive for benzoylecgonine, a metabolic acid of cocaine, but rules have changed since then with Rugby League player Adam Rusling getting a three-month ban in 2024 for testing positive for cocaine and MDMA.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/a...s/ckgk0mr1v3ro