Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
Alrighty

#1 It IS a comeback because an inability to get a LICENSE caused the "Holy Warrior" to have a hiatus

Larry Donald 11-13-2004.......long break......Jeremy Bates 8-18-2006....roughly 2 years, I believe it qualifies as a break and so this right meow would be called a COMEBACK....because he's COMING .....BACK.....to boxing


#2 Fitness guru Jack Lalane is like 93 and he's in better shape than most of us on the forum.....doesn't mean he'll win any titles anytime soon

#3 As a FAN of the sport of boxing, I not only care to watch great fights but I care to see great fighters live to influence fighters of another generation

#4 Journeymen getting licensed is one thing....they don't make enough money to JUST box...usually they have another job so when people say "don't quit your day job" they are talking to those guys

#5 Yes there are people better than me at what I do......but I am not getting brain damage from trying...awwww shux fella I wish I could

#6 My opinion is backed up by numerous boxing fans

#7 Fres Oquendo is ALSO on the comeback trail....and he got TKO'd by John Ruiz. But yeah I had him beating Byrd too.

#8 Listen to Evander talk....he's like 5 punches past retarded....and that was after the Bowe trilogy. And even if you STOP boxing your brain will not heal from those blows to the head.


Let me ask you stebs, would you rather Evander be like he is now or would you rather him be like Gerald McClellan
I don't know if this is allowed since I never read the rules of the debate forum but i think a couple of Lyles points need to be addressed.

#1, Lyle the medical suspension had nothing to do with his health, It had more to do with Holyfield not living up to the lofty goals he set for himself and his passed performances that we all remember. He did finish the fight with no adverse health issues.

#2 doesn't even merit an answer

#3 might merit an answer. Holyfield has and still influences fighters with his great heart and determination, of both the new generation and old generation of fighters.

#4 Giving these guys a license to take a beating should not have been typed by you, see your last statement about McClellan

#5 There is always someone better on any given night in any profession, and since we don't know your profession we don't know if you could substain brain damage. But you have to remember that all fighters face this reality.

#6 Again it's just your opinion. he has been licensed by the medical field to fight, so is a boxing fans opinion more qualified then the the doctors who cleared him to fight.

#7 We both agree Fres beat Byrd, and we both know Fres lost two of his last four fights, one to Ruiz and one to Holyfield. We also know Ruiz is unappreciated because of his style ( fans opinion again ) but he keeps winning fights. That doesn't mean any of them shouldn't be allowed in their chosen profession.

#8 You mention brain damage after the Bowe trilogy but you fail to mention that he won the title from Tyson in classic Holyfield style a year later and then defended it four times after that before losing it to Lennox and then regaining a portion of it after that.

Your last statement should not have been asked. I'm a fan just like you and would not want to see what happened to McClellan on anyone, whether it's a journeymen getting licensed to take a beating or a ring legend like Holyfield, you should ask yourself that question about the journeymen.

I responded Lyle so now it's back to you.