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Wlad
Sam Peter
Calvin Brock
James Toney
Lamon Brewster
Sergue Lyckahovich
and then just lump everybody else behind them. I really want to rate Toney higher but I dont think he has the stamina to fight a full fight like he needs to in order to win the close fights.
I pretty much agree with you only I would put Toney at number 2 anyways.. Sure maybe he doesn't have the stamina to go a hard 12... But what guy on that list doesn't have some glaring flaw to their game. Hell which don't also have questionable stamina?.. Wlad is the best HW right now but he still may not have a good chin and perhaps isn't consistent... Peter can't box, Brock is limited skill wise, Sergei... after his last fight I wouldn't even rank him whatsoever Id be surprised if he's ever heard of again. Brewster as well is a completely limited brawler who currently has a detached retina.. I don't have any problem putting Toney at no.2 I think he's the only logical pick since he clearly defeated Sam Peter in their fight and is the only HW besides Wlad with a real skillset.. Which is actually much better then Wlads.
Agree completely. I also want to say that I don't understand how anyone is calling Valuev #2. He got a GIFT DECISION against John Ruiz to get his title, and he's never beaten anyone else who's remotely talented. He looks awful in the ring, and he will definitely lose the first time he steps up to decent competition (unless maybe he's in Germany again). You can complain about "what has Sam Peter done?", but he's done more than Valuev has, and you can't possibly believe that Valuev would beat Peter. (But I definitely agree with Toney as #2 ahead of Peter based on his clear victory over Peter in their first fight, even if the judges were blind.)