Von Ive got it but dont know where, I used to have thousends of them lent them and never got them back Im sure Ive got a dvd of one of mine doing what Floyds doing on a 8" pipe skipping and balancing at the same time, really good for awareness. About the pads thing I think it gives bad technique, but people see Flyod doing it and think that must be good. Yet when he punches he misses a lot and punches gloves so the other guy cant get a rythem its a systemthat works unless youve got a good counter puncher in front of you hes mastered it probably from the cott