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Veint was coming into the first fight pretty highly regarded, although unproven he was ranked very highly and was thought to be one of the best available atm, so lets get some facts right. Calzaghe had ONE belt then, not 2, he refuses, he losses his belt.

As for WBO giving calzaghe mandatories warren approves, why exaggerate for? he hada got to Germany to fight veint the second time 'coz warren was to cheap to buy the rights.

"Calzaghe says that NOW he wants to be known in then USA" - ha, that one actually made me laugh. You have selected reading or something? how many times do you need to read about how calzaghe has wanted a hopkins or Jones Jr for the past 5 or so years, blame warren for not offering enough or blame hopkins or jones Jr for constantly pricing them selves out, but why blame someone who's job it is just to fight?

I don't understand why all the hate. If you didn't think his skills are great fair enough, but it seems you do respect his talents, thats why you have to try and take cheap shots at things that he doesn't or can't controll.
I think your giving Joe an awfully easy ride. I don't think for a minute he has ever put the kind of pressure on Warren that Hatton did to deliver Tszyu. If the fights didnt come he could have left FW, he didnt therefor has to shoulder some of the blame himself.
I understand that my views might be biased 'coz i am a massive calzaghe fan, i honestly try to give an unbiased opinion though, and i will try to now...

there are what, 3 people who calzaghe hasn't fought and people would of liked to seen him fight.. Otte, Hopkins, and Jones Jr?

No way in hell was Otte ever going to fight out in germany, he lost about 2-3 fights there and was gifted a win (one against a guy calzaghe fought 6 rounds with with one hand robin Reid) - I don't blame warren for that.

Hopkins wanted $6million, the greediest bastard of all time don king had accepted $3m for hopkins to take the fight in the US, but hopkins personally totally priced him self out, Warren made numerous more attempts to make the fight without any luck - you tell me honestly what warren could of done? paid $6m for that fight? fk that its ball's and you know it

Roy Jones Jr - Can't be sure on this one 'coz from money offered iv only seen what warren says he offered, and well i don't believe to much of what he says. But Joes was supposedly offered around $5m and upwards to fight Calzaghe int he us back when he was in his prime. I know HBO wanted to build Joe up to fight Jones Jr not long after he dethroned Eubank, but unfortunately for Joe he bust his hand in the Reid fight, fought 6 rounds with one hand and HBO lost all interest in him. They later renewed their interest, only for Joe to bust his hand again with starie and look crap in the ring, where basically HBO lost all interest up until the lacy fight - So how do you blame warren for that?

Warren has gotten Glen Johnson to agree to fight calzaghe, i think 3 times now. Each time calzaghe had pulled out due to injury, the first 2 times h agreed were pre-lacy and a good performace would of been a step into the US market. I rate johnson somewhat, don't think he would of been able to do much to trouble Joe, and think Joe did pull out with a genuinely hand injury - your free to come to your own conclusion tho

As for hatton, well look where hes gone to since he left warren - yeah he picked up 2 titales, by beating 2 fighters i believe warren could of gotten him, but look how much he's been slagged off for the fights, how much sh*t he's gotten for the guy he is fighting next...