Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
But what I am saying is Evander is a shell of his former self and Fres is even MORE of a shell....it's like Tito vs Mayorga you can't get a good judge of what Holyfield is ready for when he's fighting a guy who's 21-11-1 and then a guy who has struggled with a sorry a** fighter after taking a long layoff.

Evander might look like the best new thing in the division but he hasn't fought anyone NEAR a contender status....Oquendo WAS a contender at one time but obviously not anymore.

You cannot judge Holyfield on what he has done vs two bums, he's going to get killed and it's idiot fans like yourself who would let Evander hop in the ring with a guy like Wladimir, Sam Peter, or Nicolay Valuev
Ok Genius, since when is it up to me or any other fan to decide if a boxer can fight?? That decision is Holyfeld's decision and Holyfield's alone!! It's spoiled little mama's boys like yourself that need somebody "anybody" to tell them what to do and when to do it. Do you honestly think that somebody else should make the decision for Holyfield?? Are you one of those guys that thinks the government should tell it's people what to spend there money on and how?? And how was Fres a shell of his former self?? I got news for you chief, Fres was never that special and he never really had a prime. Because everytime the spot light was on him he failed miserably. Fres was just as horrible when he fought Holyfield as he was against anyone else he fought!! But you can't argue that he was a contender and I also believe he was the favorite to win the fight as well. Holyfield may be a shell of his former self I"m not arguing that. But what I am saying is that shell might be enough for him to accomplish his dream of regaining the championship.