Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea
While no one can question Fernando's heart or desire, he was never talented enough to beat the top guys and he never will be. He had very good punching power, but what separates the very good fighters from the great fighters are speed and reflexes. Fernando, even at a young age, never had the reflexes to avoid being hit with big punches (especially left hooks) and he also didn't have the chin to absorb big punches once they landed.

Very few fighters can absorb the kind of punishment that Vargas took against Trinidad and ever be the same fighter again. Since that fight, Vargas has had three major fights (DLH and the 2 vs. Mosley) and he has lost all 3, 2 of them coming by crushing KOs, both on huge left hooks.
Everytime Vargas fights a top-notch guy, the results will be the same, and they figure to get more lopsided the older he gets. And you can't say "Oh, he beat Winky and Quartey!" because that was a long, long time ago, before Trinidad took his pound of flesh from Vargas.

Luckily for Vargas, he's made a ton of money from his big fights and should be financially secure. He should retire.
Thanks for the replies guys!! cc to both..
Firstly to Sweet Pea... its true trinidad will affect em.. tito is my favourite fighter so i have no arguement against that..
The winky fight was a bit of a strange decision .. but none the less .. on the record..
Quartey a big win.. props...
I definately feel he should have picked his opponents better no doubt..
Vargas is an ok boxer... great power...i certainly think retirement is a bit pre mature right now..
he would definately claim titles at light middle and could have great fights...
he lost these fights... but the trinidad fight was close as they come putting aside the twelth round
and perhaps without the point deduction for fernando on a borderline low blow late in the right..
which was a make up call by jay nady!!
and the first mosely fight was hella close..
But you're dead on hes certainly got the money young.. but he's a proud mexican fighter like most mexican fighters and he wants to fight to be remembered... so his children can say theyr father was a warrior..thats a quote :P

Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock
IMO He would have to move up to a Heavier weight to be effective, He is a naturally bigger guy and making weight seems to be draining him, the only problem with that is if he moves to Middleweight-Supermiddleweight...How effective is his power and How will the chin hold up??
i feel thats a good idea, certainly as the middleweight division is soon to be left fairly empty when jermaine moves to super middle, i dont think arthur , abraham, and the rest are quite the same tier as fernando...
winky im sure would certainly want a rematch.. which nobody wants to fight winky tbh...
A some what crazy idea... but what could really make his legacy...
can he make welter... There is always the void left by floyd.. fights with people like judah, collazo, baldomir possibly, margarito, cotto, cintron.. Lots of choices..
Although highly likely that its too late in his career to make welter,
but if he could his power would be supreme at that wieght, depending on how he makes the wieght..
Also with a record and his big name... he might want to consider a new trainer..
work on that defence of his.. work of conditioning and skills with a big name trainer..
get out there and retain a great legacy..?!
Thoughts?
Peace