Oscar fans alway's seem to get mad at me when I say that Mayorga and Vargas werent the same after their losses to Trinidad. They want to make it seem that ODH had great showings against these boxers just as Tito did. But it is very easy to see that Fernando was never the same after the Tito fight such as Taylor was never the same after the Chavez fight, brutal beatings can take away from a man's physical and mental prowess. Being KO'd in a brutal fashion shot Vargas. His next two fights were slow and he was knocked down by a journeyman. It was so discouraging that the Vargas camp had to pull Fernando too the side and ask if he wanted to continue fighting, he said yes. His next fight was against ODH and the rest is history. That fighter you saw fight ODH and Mosley was not the same fighter who fought Tito but it was a fighter who had alot of heart and determination. Mosley recieved an even more shot Vargas than Oscar did, Mosley should not recieve the same credit that Tito or even ODH recieved. Whether a fighter is drained in weight or not has nothing to do with the way Fernando has been performing in the ring, he has been slow, his back injury has him very stiff, he has no outside attack, and his punches lack the usual flare they had in the past. This man can no longer compete with top competition in any weight class. He took the Tito fight too early which probably cost him the HOF.