Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock
There is no way he is making welter and if he did would be ineffective like he was against Mosely in the 2nd fight were he looked tired drained and plotting.... He was working with a great strength and conditioning coach to overcome his back troubles...Fernado is just in kind of a career limbo and it rough seeing he is only 28 years old..
yehh man i know what u mean its hard stuff..


Quote Originally Posted by brazilianbomber


Oscar fans alway's seem to get mad at me when I say that Mayorga and Vargas werent the same after their losses to Trinidad. They want to make it seem that ODH had great showings against these boxers just as Tito did. But it is very easy to see that Fernando was never the same after the Tito fight such as Taylor was never the same after the Chavez fight, brutal beatings can take away from a man's physical and mental prowess. Being KO'd in a brutal fashion shot Vargas. His next two fights were slow and he was knocked down by a journeyman. It was so discouraging that the Vargas camp had to pull Fernando too the side and ask if he wanted to continue fighting, he said yes. His next fight was against ODH and the rest is history. That fighter you saw fight ODH and Mosley was not the same fighter who fought Tito but it was a fighter who had alot of heart and determination. Mosley recieved an even more shot Vargas than Oscar did, Mosley should not recieve the same credit that Tito or even ODH recieved. Whether a fighter is drained in weight or not has nothing to do with the way Fernando has been performing in the ring, he has been slow, his back injury has him very stiff, he has no outside attack, and his punches lack the usual flare they had in the past. This man can no longer compete with top competition in any weight class. He took the Tito fight too early which probably cost him the HOF.
Good points cc!!..
Perhaps he wasnt completely shot after trinidad.. certainly took it out of him...
However... i dont think he'll hang em up... perhaps if he fights smart and picks his fights carefully.. he will still make HOF .. he's certainly been in some of the great fights of the generation..
im baffled to why his fight with tito wasnt fight of the year?! lol.. anyone know what was the f.o.t.y that year? was it 2001 or somethin?
yeh oscar fans wont like that, lol maybe bieng a bit bold with it.. but its true to an extent..
I can truely see him securing a legacy with wins over fighters like mayorga, spinks and theres a few fights with ranked fighters in the light middleweight division ..
I brought this subject up cos ive been getting impatient to know what he plans on doing..
i have heard litterally nothing.. and it'd be a shame to hang em up for such a talented fighter on such a bad note at the age of 28 ...
Peace..


cc for the reply bomber!