I came here with the thought of engaging in intelligent discussions about boxing and fighters. Having learned authentic karate in Okinawa at young age and having been keen observer of boxing, though a selective type, I wanted to engage in honest to goodness discussions, especially when our boy 'Pacman' came into the limelight. But then, I realized this is not experts' or wannabee experts' (like me) site, but a fans' site. As most people know most fans go by the rule 'fans can go no wrong,' and I've found it almost impossible to bring a disscussion to it's rightful conclusion, especially when discussing hypothetical fights that may never happen, so I've decided to slip away quietly when name-calling or sarcasm started to creep into the discussion and decided to leave the fans alone in the place that is rightfully theirs.

But one strange thing I've notice, many fans start to disappear when a fight involving their idols come near, particularly when the odds seem to be against their fighters - all the tough talking about the invincibility of their idols stops. But those are the times that we fans who have some knowledge about boxing and who are confident with our views thrive, that is, when the consequence of our views or stands is right in our face, that's how comfortable we are with our views. Not only that, those are the times when we see fellow fans who are more confident with their boxing knowledge and the others, those die hard fans who, for better or worse, decided to stick with their boys to the end - and these are the two types of fans I mostly admire; real fans should always stick with their boys, you win some and you lose some, there's nothing to it.

As one of our boys, Rey 'boom-boom' Bautista will be fighting tonight, I've decided to drop by and put in my 2 cent worth of comment. On the way, I saw this thread and thought it worth discussing.