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    Quarry!

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    Micheal Stewart,Gerry Cooney and Andrew Golota
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDukeof74
    Micheal Stewart,Gerry Cooney and Andrew Golota
    oh yea good call forgot about golota

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    Golota, Sammy Langford, Harry Wills, Ezzard Charles

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDukeof74
    Micheal Stewart,Gerry Cooney and Andrew Golota
    Minus Golota this is a pretty good list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mucho testosterone
    Quote Originally Posted by TheDukeof74
    Micheal Stewart,Gerry Cooney and Andrew Golota
    Minus Golota this is a pretty good list.
    Ya! minus the Golota
    I remember my fav quote re Golota
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
    Danny williams....destoyer of myths
    i think you mean"DESTROYER OF LEGENDS"

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    Quarry
    Chuvalo
    Golota
    Ibeabuchi
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
    Quarry
    Chuvalo
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    I'll add Shavers to that list...right on when it comes to post 1965 heavy's...CC

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
    Golota, Sammy Langford, Harry Wills, Ezzard Charles
    Ezzard Charles was world heavyweight champion. He fought Jersey Joe Walcott for the vacant (NBA world) title following Joe Louis's retirement, and won a unanimous decision. He defended it successfully against Walcott subsequently, and also a comebacking Louis to be universally recognised. He lost it to Walcott via picture-perfect left hook KO in round 7, and then was defeated again by Walcott on points. I always found it strange that he should have won their first two fights, and lost the last two as Walcott was significantly older (he was the then oldest winner at 3, which you would have thought favoured Charles even more. The third fight is more explicable since it was ended early by the big puncher, but losing on points in the fourth less so. Maybe Charles simply faded more quickly as a force - as a small heavyweight, he was more reliant on his speed and reflexes which are likely to erode more quickly, whereas Walcott always had his punch/strength to fall back on.
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    ah....see I looked on boxrec, I saw the last fights with Walcott when he lost.

    CC for the correction, I figured he had been champ before but guess I just overlooked it on boxrec

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Promoter
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
    Quarry
    Chuvalo
    Golota
    Ibeabuchi
    Tua
    I'll add Shavers to that list...right on when it comes to post 1965 heavy's...CC












    CC at a on Shavers I totaly forgort about him.....Truth is the gus from that era were all good...All could have been champ in another era....it wes just bad luck that the fougt in the era's of Ali,Liston,Patterson,Foreman and frazier







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    Some real good posts here, nice to see the really good old timers getting credit. The problem with a young-ish base of people on this forum is that we are only really familier with people from our own era (as people are fans not historians).

    Still, I sometimes get disappointed that we fall into the trap of thinking that better training and diet somehow creates more talented or tougher fighters in what is (today) a minority sport !!!!

    How about adding Cleveland Williams to the list? He was a big guy, tough, could box (reminded me a bit of Rubin Carter stylewise, but with a much better punch) Williams was studiously avoided by everyone until he was old and past it.
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    zora folley, cleveland williams, gary mason, carl williams, roland lastarza, razor ruddock,ike ibeabuchi, jimmy young, jerry quarry, sam mcvvey, joe jeanette, sam langford, harry wills, earnie shavers, eddie machen, nino valdes, georges carpentier to name a few

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    Default Re: Best HW to never win a Title??

    Easily Earnie Shavers. Too bad he had the misfortune of fighting Ali and Holmes for the title. How do you think he would have done against John Tate?...or Leon Spinks?...or Ken Norton?...well we know that answer, don't we.

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