Quote Originally Posted by Punisher136
Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
If you like Ali and think he's the Greatest just because it's everyone else's opinion then you're an idiot....if you are knowledgeable enough to prove in a debate why he's the greatest of all time then I respect your opinion.

And ignorance shows when people say things like "Joe Louis couldn't beat Sonny Liston"....prime for prime Joe Louis would have made Liston look SILLY
I picked ali for the following reasons:

Despite being bigger than most of his opponents, he still moved like he was half their size.
He had one of the nastiest jabs in boxing.
He could move at a quick pace around the ring (mostly circling to the left) and not get tired while doing it.
When someone did get inside on ali he had a great chin and covered up his body well so he never got hurt.
In ali/liston I, liston throws a 5 punch combo (maybe 4 because the tape i have of it is alittle choppy) and none of them land clean while ali is pinned near the ropes.
What he lacked in power he made up for by picking his punches well.
Everyone knows who he is. That has nothing to do with greatness in the ring but i think being well known is a good gauge of success too, unless you become famous for going to jail etc.
He had speed and he knew how to use it. He'd think nothing of dropping a 5 punch flurry on someone. Look at Ali/London (the first fight if there were two of them) The flurry that drops london in round 3 is unbelieveable. I've never seen a combo thrown that fast b4 or since.

I probably tend to favor Ali in any question (aside from marciano) because the first boxing match i ever saw (outside of the rocky movies but those dont really count) was ali/chuvalo I and i knew who ali was but i never saw him box. I didn't think it was possible for a human being to move around like that for an hour str8 and still be standing unwinded in round 8. Thats the fight that made me get into boxing.
fight that made me a boxing fan was ali-quarry 1-i was scared seeing a boxing match--and ali was talking sh** b4 the fight i was that guy is scary. now hes my hero