I also must agree with the original post. Most importantly, nice to see a forum without all the bashing. And i guess I can forgive most of you from being from "across the pond" (Just playin, wish I didnt live in the states). I havn't started boxing yet (finally getting to a gym tomorrow night, wish me luck) but I feel I will be going in with a lot more knowlege than I had before I checked out this forum. Thanks everyone, and keep up the good work.