Quote Originally Posted by Gyrokai
But I'm also in the minority in that .... Edwin Valero is something VERY special, who came at the right time too.

I think Valero can beat Pacman. haha
did u know Pac and EV sparred?

PAC was way to fast and schooled EV in their sparring sessions. now it was only sparring, but yo PAC is probably the most improving/evolving fighter PERIOD. look how much hes evolved from the EM 1, EM 2, to my personal favorite the LARIOS bout damn he pulled some crazy moves there man.