well D, it seems to me that's easy to answer. But I could be wrong. Here goes: most people, even the ones who know something about mma, think judo is nothing but throws. I thought that too until just about 8months ago when munkey started touting its virtues. They actually have no idea that judo is so much more. Another thing is that the Gracies have basically bullshitted the entire mma world into believing that Rickson is the be all end all of grappling. As such, they think the Gracies invented the groundgame and arm bars and chokes and all that, and that the ground game is exclusive to Brazil. All Gracie did, IMO, was adopt absolutely nothing that hadn't been done for centuries before him, put his name on it, and claimed it as his own Brazillian brand of fighting.