also somat to mention especially with dempsey , willard fighting someone like marciano and tht woudl be what era this may sound stupid but look at it this way dempsey was allowed to pretty much stand over willard waiting for him to get up in the era of marciano this would not be possible and all the rumours that dempsey had sumat in his glove gainst willard which would not be allowed to happen today i mean i rekon i could knock willard out if i had a big piece of steel in my glove