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never would hopkins been able to touch RJJ in his prime, ever. Jones was to fast, to strong and a much better boxer than hopkins. Don't forget tito was out of his depth at MW.
Thank goodness someone stepped in and said something, CC Preme, Many fighters will look invincible when their opponent is much smaller then them in the ring, I still don't understand why people give so much credit for Hopkins beating an undersized Trinidad compared to other boxers. Plain crazy.
I'm sure Joppy said the same thing.

Trinidad was enough of a Middleweight to knockout Joppy and Mayorga wasn't he? Alright then don't take credit from Hopkins for beating Trinidad. Hindsight is 20-20. But if Trinidad was the betting favorite(which he was) there's no place to call Tito an undersized Middleweight NOW after the fact.

Tito and Oscar were both undersized MW when they stepped in the ring vs Hopkins. But you only here excuses for Oscar when it comes to the disadvantage. I just want to make sure we have an unbias opinion here. You either give him credit for beating two HOF fighters or you don't give him credit due to the size advantage he had over both fighters. You however are one of many people on this forum that give Tito no benefit of the doubt at all for losing that fight due to the streak he ran off from Septemeber of 99 to November of 01. He did knock out Joppy which should say more for his achievement than his lack of it. Second off Trinidad was the betting favorite because Bernard Hopkins had never displayed the talent he displayed post Trinidad to present. If we would have seen that B-Hop at the time he would have been the heavy favorite, there is a bunch of if's you can add. Every logical boxing fan can tell you that Tito was an overblown WW with the exception of you. It's not fair that some boxers get a get out of jail free card and others don't. The Joppy demolition should be very impressive to you because not only did he beat a champion he beat him while being undersized and hit like a mule. Instead you use it against him which is BS, you think because he beat Joppy that 160 should have been a natural weight for him LOL. After he sat for 2 years and his body got heavier he came back to 160 and beat Mayorga who should have not been at 160 either, you need to sharpen up.