Quote Originally Posted by landmine950
Quote Originally Posted by TheChosenOne
he is big. thats about it, he barley be ruiz..... that says alot!
I agree completely !! It does say a LOT!!
Now (with appologies to punisher136)

Valuev beat Ruiz 116-113,114-114,116-114, a majority decision

Ruslan Chagaev JUST (i mean recently and barely) beat Ruiz
116-112,114-115,117-111 a split decision

So Valuev beat Ruiz, worse! than Chagaev did!!!
So if Valuev is a fraud,joke,oaf,piece of sh1t then Chagaev must be a bigger one. Keep in mind Chagaev is the current #1 WBA contender and holds the WBO Asia Pacific & Inter-Continental Champion & the WBA Inter-Continental Champion

Lets look back at the most recent Ruiz fights JUST before Valuev.

If you think all these guys are all Bums or crap fighters or whatever, please don't read on or respond,....your an idiot

James Toney beat ruiz 116-111,116-111 and 115-112 about the same as Valuev

Andrew Golota LOST 111-114,112-113,111-114. So we could "infer?"
that Valuev's better than Golota??
Golota's not all that, but he is a big strong Uke with a good jab and decent power. Kinda like a "dumbed down" Oleg Maskaev??

Fres Oquendo- I wont even bother Ruiz ko'd him in one so obviously Valuev would kill him

Hasim Rahman LOST to Ruiz UD 110-118,114-115,112-116 a bigger margin
than Valuev had over Ruiz! conclusion?? you tell me....

He's not a fraud,a freak (well ok he is a freak),a phony,an oaf (well ya i guess he's kinda an oaf..) well I'll say this much!!

VALUEV AIN"T NO JOKE!!!
someone on this site watched that fight and they said scorecards were completey wrong and ruslan easily beat ruiz golota got robbed by ruiz he floored him twice take a look at this my friend

* Ruiz down twice in the 2nd. Ruiz had one point deducted for hitting after the break.

Most observers had Golata winning.

he beat ruiz because he is like almost 1 foot taller lol and he is awkard and even that was controversial to who really won