So it just takes an El Gamo's to start the thread going heh, alright then, you'll hired! Gamo. We'll talk about the pay later.

Ya I'll have toagree with almost everyone here that Valero may be too raw for Pac for now, though I have to admit I haven't seen any of his fight. I really wanted to see the Mosquerra fight but with my dial-up, I just don't have the patience to download anything above 50megs. I'm pretty good analyzing when I see a fight, though. Even if they say he knocked out some cab drivers, a record-breaking one-round ko's are simply awesome by any standard and can't just be ignored. And to think that Pac's chin is not among the best, that's scary. Maybe the big question is if Valero can improve and be a decent technical boxer. I have my doubts though primarily because training in Japan may not be the best thing to do for him. 1st, I think they don't have enough good sparring partners there (the last I've heard is that he was sparring one of our boy Suico - geeze, he's a slow robot!), and 2nd, Japanese training method may not be the best for him. I'm familiar with Japanese boxing and when it comes to training, Japanese are pretty much orthodox in their style. So how far Valero goes remains to be seen. I'd really love to see Valero becoming a really great fighter and ultimately fighting Pac in a big, hyped-up match seen in all over the world, and of course...win. Who else is there in the future?

All right, I've given everyone here my CC.