Demetrius Hopkins vs. Ricky Hatton

**Taeth** · 12-22-2006 02:42 AM

I don't think Demetrius is enough like his uncle to beat somebody as good as Hatton.

**killersheep** · 12-22-2006 02:53 AM

Hatton has this one, in a few years when Hatton degrades if D-Hop is still improving it may change my opinion, but definately not yet.

**CutMeMick** · 12-22-2006 03:06 AM

I'm talking about the moving up & down in weight, I mean doesn't he walk around at like 170 lbs. or so?

I'm talking about his last performance thats got to be on his mind... And the pressure of beating Urango in style and making a statement.

**Lords Gym** · 12-22-2006 03:36 AM

I don't know about Ricky's habits ? but your right. ballooning up in weight and coming down, it take a toll on the body. and over time the adverse effects will show up. a world class fighter will stay in the neighbor hood of his fighting weight within 7 to 10 lbs all the time. thus the majority of his training camp can be spent on boxing related training , and strategy, rather then weight loss being the focus. my thinking is while a fighter is at the top.. he need to be serious about this , make that money now. be serious... plenty of time later to pack on the pounds eat good food and smoke them cigars. after you retired.

take James Toney for example.. he was at 210 lbs a few weeks before the Jones fight many years back . James had to lose all that weight and was weak as shit fight night . a fight that he would have been more competitive in, if only he wasn’t juggling around with the weight issue the whole time.

**superheavyrhun** · 12-22-2006 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by Lords Gym

I don't know about Ricky's habits ? but your right. ballooning up in weight and coming down, it take a toll on the body. and over time the adverse effects will show up. a world class fighter will stay in the neighbor hood of his fighting weight within 7 to 10 lbs all the time. thus the majority of his training camp can be spent on boxing related training , and strategy, rather then weight loss being the focus. my thinking is while a fighter is at the top.. he need to be serious about this , make that money now. be serious... plenty of time later to pack on the pounds eat good food and smoke them cigars. after you retired.

take James Toney for example.. he was at 210 lbs a few weeks before the Jones fight many years back . James had to lose all that weight and was weak as S*** fight night . a fight that he would have been more competitive in, if only he wasn’t juggling around with the weight issue the whole time.

So what you're suggesting is that Hatton should go down the toney route, and just fight at his walking around weight which would probably be at light heavy or cruiser? It'd be interesting, but I doubt he'd have the all action style he does up at that weight.

**amat** · 12-22-2006 07:53 PM

Or just get down to around 150 between fights.

**Lords Gym** · 12-22-2006 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by superheavyrhun

Originally Posted by Lords Gym

I don't know about Ricky's habits ? but your right. ballooning up in weight and coming down, it take a toll on the body. and over time the adverse effects will show up. a world class fighter will stay in the neighbor hood of his fighting weight within 7 to 10 lbs all the time. thus the majority of his training camp can be spent on boxing related training , and strategy, rather then weight loss being the focus. my thinking is while a fighter is at the top.. he need to be serious about this , make that money now. be serious... plenty of time later to pack on the pounds eat good food and smoke them cigars. after you retired.

take James Toney for example.. he was at 210 lbs a few weeks before the Jones fight many years back . James had to lose all that weight and was weak as S*** fight night . a fight that he would have been more competitive in, if only he wasn’t juggling around with the weight issue the whole time.

So what you're suggesting is that Hatton should go down the toney route, and just fight at his walking around weight which would probably be at light heavy or cruiser? It'd be interesting, but I doubt he'd have the all action style he does up at that weight.

no I am suggesting that Ricky's walking around weight should come down. Ricky should stay closer to his fighting weight. at 5"6, 147 -155 lbs should be where he hangs his hat in-between fights while he is an active boxer. I am saying put the pizza down until after you retire.

**superheavyrhun** · 12-22-2006 08:03 PM

I was being a little mischievous there in my previous post, but I'm not convinced that he can discipline himself in that way, it ain't easy y'know. Saying I'll pig out in 2 months is easier than saying to yourself I'll pig out in 8 years time. Nevertheless, a bit more balance would suit him in between fights.