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have u even looked into why douglas beat tyson?, theres more to it!..and how dare u count mcbride and williams,they should be strickend from the record..and we are talking prime and tysons prime was thye kevin rooney years,not when he lost to douglas due to drinking,lack of training and incompetent trainers...and why does all tyson haters dismiss the spinks anillation? he fought and beat holmes and conney and at the time every one expected him to give tyson trouble and to test him...and he blew him out in 91 sec.....and holmes,holmes was great and he got the worst beating of his life,so why dont u count that win either? i mean holy supporters count that win and holmes was even older and gave holyfeild heaps of trouble...why cant u addmit that tyson was great for those 2 glorious years bettween 86-88 when he trained hard and took the game seriously under rooneys expert guidence
Well fine even comparing a PRIME Tyson which was what 2 years of his career To a young, prime, or old George Foreman I take Foreman!!!

I know why Buster beat Tyson #1 Tyson didn't train which is his excuse to ALL his losses #2 Buster dedicated the fight to his MOm and worked hard and he looked good but looking good ONE NIGHT doesn't make you a F****** great boxer!

George Foreman had more power than Tyson could ever DREAM of...let's not look at Tyson's KO's but WHO he KO'd...the 1980's and early 1990's division was full of CHINLESS wonders with the exception of: Ray Mercer, Oliver, McCall, Evander Holyfield, and Riddick Bowe of which Tyson fought ONE of them and lost both times....and in my opinion would have lost to all of them.

George Foreman KO'd GEORGE CHUVALO....George KO'd JOE FRAZIER.....George KO'd HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD MICHAEL MOORER when he was 45!!!!...But I guess if we compare those 2 years of Mike Tyson's career vs Foreman's 81 total fights....George was GREAT in 81 fights while Mike was "great" for 2 years.....get the F*** outta here man NO WAY TYSON BEATS ANY ALL-TIME GREAT HEAVYWEIGHT EVER IN THE HISTORY OF THE SPORT

Not Jack Johnson, not Jack Dempsey, not Rocky Marciano, not Ezzard Charles, not Joe Walcott, not anyone....I'm not hating on Tyson's skill but you have to recognize that THOSE fighters were extremely talented as well and they didn't fight half as many bums as Mike did.
Wow you really have nastalgia complex don't you. Tyson would destoy each an every guy you just mentioned, and this isn't even worth debating anymore because you are using retarded arguments. Actually breakdown the fight, and its pretty obvious that Foreman wouldn't be able to hit Tyson... He couldn't really hit Frazier except for the few times when he did catch Frazier and ko'ed him, but Frazier was not as good defensively as Tyson, he couldn't anywhere near as hard, and he wasn't as big. Tyson weighs the same as prime Foreman, and he was 4 inches shorter... that indicates a much larger muscle mass, and a much more compact frame... If he could slip the jabs of Holmes(best jab ever in the heavyweights) even when he was old his jab was faster, and more accurate that Foreman's ever was, same with Carl Williams, but Tyson took him out with one hell of a left hook after slipping his jab. Anyways my point is that Foreman fought 90% nobodies with a few legitimate opponents, but Tyson fought better opponents more consistently than Foreman did, and that would contribute to him not have a higher knockout ratio. Also not to mention taller guys could hold Tyson whenever he came in like Evander which they couldn't do against the taller Foreman who liked to fight at range with his jab so they didn't get breaks against him when they were hurt.
i agree with lyle i think prime bowe would beat tyson carl williams was decent fighter but come on that guy had one of weakest chins ever in hw division he had skills but his chin was made of glass