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Quote Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
oh come on jt you know i like you bro but your doing what most do overrating tyson i mean this is same tyson that did struggle with james quick tillis and tony tucker losing 4 rounds to tucker and i know tucker was decent but he wasnt in same class as bowe lewis and prime holyfield was he ??
No I'm not overrating Tyson!!!!! I was very specific about the time frame Tyson was elite, anyone can see a decline especially someone who has a bigger library than the Smithsonian...

1st go's Focus and discipline out of ring charades
2nd went head movement
3rd go's to jail
4th stops combo punching only looked for the 1 big punch
5th went his heart and willingness to fight and take punishment....

Foreman had trouble with Ron Lyle and lost to Jimmy Young.. yea a Jimmy YOung who got beat by Tony Tucker, Tony Tubbs, Ken Norton... and 16 other guys
foreman wasnt in his prime against young or lyle plus jimmy young was well past it when he fought tucker and tubbs you know that yourself jt young in his prime was sound fighter he lost to ali in which many thought he won got a draw against shavers in which alot people thought he won and lost razor thin decision to ken norton tyson was great fighter of course he was but not unbeatable like some people try and make out but i love good debate anyway this is all good fun