I don't think guzman or valero can get to pac while mab and jmm are still around...guzman is nowhere near mab or jmm boxing skills valero is still raw...pac will be too much for either guzman or valero...we all heard it before pac is gonna get outbox blah blah blah ahh yea all game plans out the window right when the speed and power is right in front of you...valero is getting some hype now he has a title he won from and those k.os uhh pac would of done the same prolly worst to valeros oppenents...guzman well a boxer? nothing like mab or jmm...pac has been in with the best and he can overwhelm them and take them to deep waters...guzman hasn't been in anything like the pacman...both guzman or valero will be overwhelmed by pac and that ends there hype after winning titles from nobodies.

other then mab and jmm theres nobody that can challenge pacs hold on the division.