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In no way was Tyson going to get beat by foreman, ok foreman had a big punch and good chin but the tyson of 91 was still quick and had plenty of heart, people seem to think that tyson had no heart, that bull he had plenty back then your comparing him to the tyson that got released from prison in 1995, that tyson had no heart and no stamina. He got beat by douglas yes a year prior but unprepared maybe, prepared maybe who knows but George has never and could never box as well as Douglas did that night, he was as close as perfect as you can get. Tyson took what was seen as a much bigger and harder fight than george Foreman when nobody else would including Holyfield and Bowe who both by the way rejected fights with the young and hungry Donovan 'Razor' Ruddock who was by far seen as the most dangerous heavyweight in the world and some would say just as hard a hitter a george so i dont see where your coming from, tyson took ruddocks best and still stood there after 19 tough rounds where he showed all the heart you say he did'nt have. watch thoughs fights some of the shots he hit tyson with would of ko'd most heavies and ruddock although took his beating also kept coming back at tyson.

You telling me back in 1991 Tyson Vs Foreman was a bigger fight than Tyson Vs Ruddock? no way.
Look at it logically if Tyson beat foreman what would it have proved to the public and media - nothing cos the media and boxing public thought foreman was past it anyway so whats the point in risking it with foreman? this is how it wopuld pan out if this happened, foreman ko's tyson - foreman a great, does an Ali only better. Tyson wins - tyson beat a old foreman which proves nothing. no way would anyone of respected him for fighting foreman they would say he was ducking Ruddock and chose to fight an old man instead. he cant win so why take the fight it dont make any sense.
whether you think George was conning us and really good under his sheep skin or not and was really trying to surprise us is not a credible arguement - fact, cos other than a lucky punch verses moorer and getting beat up by holyfield, morrison and alex stewart what had he done to make you think he defeats tyson? Are you looking at how Holyfield beat tyson years later after 5 years of inactivety?

Razor Ruddock was the biggest fight in the world for Tyson, Holyfield and whoever in 1991/92 fact.
He had two underrated terrific fights with tyson, two of the best heavyweight fight of the 90's.
Dont let lewis destruction of Ruddock cloud your eyes to how good ruddock was because by the time he fought lewis thoughs tyson fights took everything outa rudduck he had left. And to the tyson cant box, in his early days after he was unable to ko tucker he boxed him to a decision and tucker again was avoided like the plague and tough, good boxer, amazing chin and just to prove that his only loss in 50 fights was tyson untill lewis beat him when he was past it 6 years later and he gave lewis all sorts of trouble , far more than he did tyson and went 12 with him also.

Ruddock V Tyson was a much bigger fight than foreman back at the time.



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firstly foreman hits harder than ruddock and secondly tucker gave lewis more trouble then tyson ?? lewis floored tucker twice ?? ruddock was decent but from what ive seen he had no headmovement and lazy offense at times shame larry holmes didnt train him here is footage of ruddock vs holmes this is video i uploaded
fact is ruddock without even comparing him to foreman was one of the hardest hitters in history.thats pretty much accepted fact. You telling me Foreman was a bigger fight? no way. Going on what you saw after maybe but at the time foreman was'nt taken seriously and many people laughed when holy fought him and thought tyson v ruddock was fight of the year and between the two best heavies as holy was still lightly regarded. Your baseing your judgement on after events. Fact is at the time in 1991-1992 Ruddock v Tyson was a bigger fight and one people looked forward to most.i was there and people would of tuned into foreman - tyson like they did homes-tyson out of pure curiousity. But Ruddock was seen as the man to take over from tyson and if he had'nt fought tyson he may well of got the title at least once.
actually i wasnt saying that at all i didnt say foreman vs tyson would of been bigger fight than ruddock vs tyson at that time