How does boxing compare to UFC

[ICB]

sometimes i watch it and its alright but othertimes when there doing that grapple shit on the floor bores me i think to myself stop grappling just bloody hit him lol it can be frustrating at times

[Kel]

It was a good idea to start with, no weight divisions or anything. I lost interest after UFC 6 myself but UFC 3 was great. Watching a 7 foot 650 LB sumo wrestler fight with a 200 LB Kempo karate guy was pure comedy gold.

[beerjelly]

sometimes i watch it and its alright but othertimes when there doing that grapple shit on the floor bores me i think to myself stop grappling just bloody hit him lol it can be frustrating at times

That just depends on how much respect you have for the technical side of MMA, its the same as someone complaining about boxers going 12 rounds, is that boring because theres no knockout?

[JT Rock]

As for people saying that the UFC and any MMA is too much grappling, theres a lot less grappling and a lot more stand up action than there used to be - which is a shame in my opinion I liked the grappling, theres too many rules in the UFC now that encourage toe to toe stand up fighting than grappling (which involves a lot more skill than people on this board seem to give it credit for but its a boxing board so its forgiven) Its the big knockouts that draw the big audiences and the big PPV revenues so its hard to blame to UFC for all the changes.
Im getting a little of point here so back to comparing boxing and UFC its impossible really, like comparing horse racing and formula one racing - they're two very different sports! A good boxer would have little chance in an MMA fight and a good fighter from the UFC would have little chance fighting under boxing rules. Both can be brilliant in their own field but very hard to compare.

agreed!!!! again like you said its a boxing forum and people are here for boxing not MMA so the dislike is expected but again I have a problem with people being disrespectful when they have 0 knowledge of what there commenting on and then pretent to think its not legit or it will go away when infact its caught up to Boxing and has surpassed it in popularity on a few levels...

I personally Prefer Pride F/C instead of the UFC I think they are marketing it like the WWF... Pride show cases the best fighters from all over the world.. I am excited to see Mirko Crocop and Quinton "Rampage" Jackson have signed contracts with the UFC from Pride.. I am confident they will run the Table in there divisions because of there exposure to fighters from all over the world..

[JT Rock]

sometimes i watch it and its alright but othertimes when there doing that grapple S*** on the floor bores me i think to myself stop grappling just bloody hit him lol it can be frustrating at times

its not that easy the minute you focus on 1 paticular area that when you utilize another.. Like when I trained when I was sparring with a good striker, the last thing I wanted to do was stand there and trade, so I would look for my opening and shoot the legs and go for the takedown or get in a Muay Thai clinch deliver the knees and then takedown, but its a fast paced chess match and you have to stay alert and never get comfortable in 1 aspect of the fight..

[Tito BHB]

Its doesn't

[Kel]

sometimes i watch it and its alright but othertimes when there doing that grapple S*** on the floor bores me i think to myself stop grappling just bloody hit him lol it can be frustrating at times

That just depends on how much respect you have for the technical side of MMA, its the same as someone complaining about boxers going 12 rounds, is that boring because theres no knockout?

Plenty of fights go 12 rounds and are absolute stormers. Yeah you might get the odd boring 12 rounder but its still more exiting to watch than two guys fondling each other on the floor.

I respect the technical side of MMA but I dont get much joy from watching it and it does not come close to boxing and the exitement I get from it boxing. Sometimes my heart thumps big time when watching a big fight, I cant get enough of it. I love the sport to bits.

Its like comparing baseball to cricket if you ask me.

[ICB]

sometimes i watch it and its alright but othertimes when there doing that grapple S*** on the floor bores me i think to myself stop grappling just bloody hit him lol it can be frustrating at times

That just depends on how much respect you have for the technical side of MMA, its the same as someone complaining about boxers going 12 rounds, is that boring because theres no knockout?

Plenty of fights go 12 rounds and are absolute stormers. Yeah you might get the odd boring 12 rounder but its still more exiting to watch than two guys fondling each other on the floor.

I respect the technical side of MMA but I dont get much joy from watching it and it does not come close to boxing and the exitement I get from it boxing. Sometimes my heart thumps big time when watching a big fight, I cant get enough of it. I love the sport to bits.

Its like comparing baseball to cricket if you ask me.

agreed well said thats the way i feel aswell

[ross]

Like when I trained when I was sparring with a good striker, the last thing I wanted to do was stand there and trade, so I would look for my opening and shoot the legs and go for the takedown or get in a Muay Thai clinch deliver the knees and then takedown,

That is what the general sports fan finds offputting about open fighting as compared to boxing, boxing is more of a spectacle, people want to see a fight, not appreciate the aspects of some holding on to anothers limb for dear life.

Also you mention that a good striker would make you want to take it to the ground, boxers, good ones, aggressive ones, strike fear in to the heart of grapplers because its hard to start a take down on someone with fast hands who is aiming to ko you, as soon as you rush forward with arms out your a target

[Hulk]

Well I consider myself pretty well versed on UFC and Boxing, others may disagree but hey what can I say?
I've actually followed UFC, since the very first UFC tournament,where there were NO rules. When a #10 ranked Cruiserweight fighter came into the ring with one boxing glove on his hand ready to KO somebody, and got choked out two minutes later by Royce Gracie. When you could punch a guy in the nuts 10-15 times, and not disqualified. I saw Royce Gracie win against Ken Shamrock. I've seen Tank Abbott get his ass kicked a thousand times, Mark "the Hammer" Coleman, and his protege, Kevin Randleman come and change the sport with their "ground and pound" tactics. I've seen the UFC go from separate martial arts competing against each other to MMA, where everybody is cross trained in everything. I've seen it all in the UFC really, and for the most part I've liked it. Its been brutal. Now, though it has changed, and its still pretty good, but all the freakin yuppies, and young punks are getting into it and thinking they know something about fighting. They know Liddell and Ortiz. They know shit IMO. Anyway, point is, the pisshead Dana White, who apparently used to be a amatuer boxer, is making the UFC out to be a brand, he's taken it mainstream, and it has become almost like Pro Wrestling. No longer is it barred in most states, or an underground thing like it was. It's really become a traveling circus IMO. I still like it, but I don't love it like I do boxing. Boxing is great, because its on a lot more than UFC, and its just more of an art, more of a pure sport the way I see it. Anything can happen in boxing and has, and I love that. UFC has become a fad, and people will start to see that, the same fighters keep fighting one another way too often, and it will pass, least at the rate Dana White is going. Boxing however will never die.
*oh and for the record, grappling can be boring, but it is not that frequent anymore, and a good grappler will always beat a good strker, if that striker can't defend against the takedown or panics when he gets taken down, grapplers are very skilled, and there are tons of submissions out there.

[Punisher136]

Ok here's my list of complaints:

First of all, a lot of the fights end in the first couple of minutes. That may be ideal for the growing numbers of adolescents with ADD but it's boring as hell to me.

The stand-up that everyone praises is absolute crap. Aids patients have a better defense against colds than the majority of those fighters have against punches. The end of that sell/smith match is my example. "But he feinted to the head which is why his body was open". Oh no it looks like his fist is coming towards my face, i'll just guard my face completely and leave my body wide open because i'm hoping he doesn't have the reaction time to hit me in the body for the 10 seconds i'll leave it exposed.

It goes to the ground A LOT. They roll around A LOT.

Most matches end in the same fashion of a jerry springer show or playground fight. Two people swinging wildly one goes to the ground the other lands with horrible accuracy and then the two are seperated by Steve, the other person's mom, or a huge ref on roids. I apologize for not seeing thelearned technical skill employed in this finishes.

The announcer with the most prestige on ufc is joe f'n rogan. This is a man who made himself famous by paying people for eating horrible stuff. He now gets paid to announce the action of something that, if it was made into a food, people wouldn't eat for any amount of money.

Any mofo with two arms and two legs can land a lucky shot and win. They could just twist the guys arm until he quits. I again apologize for not seeing the great technical skill employed in that.

They made commercials for the ultime fighter that goes and i quote " What's real? Wrestling? No. Boxing? Not anymore Watch whats real." This garbage coming from a man who was too much of a bitch to become a pro boxer and has the nerve to say that boxing's a pushover sport. Lets see him get in the ring with wlad and see how fake it is when he breaks chris byrd's record for biggest gash received on the side of one's face.

[armin]

I prefer boxing myself, but it pains me to say I think we boxing fans have truly become the minority. I'm 21 so pretty young, I can't talk to any of my buds about boxing cause none of em watch it and find it borring, my dad is pretty much the only person I know that likes it, but I guess that cause he's "old", mma is where it's at for most young people. I don't despise mma, I'll even watch it occasionally. All the grappling and groundwork doesn't bother me, I myself did wrestling for a few years and judo, so I like to see some kick ass submissions and take downs every once in a while, but for excitement and entertainment value boxing wins for me on any day. I'll be realistic though and say that in a few years time mma will beat out boxing in popularity, it's not something that has to happen, but for it not to happen there have to be some changes in boxing.

[Larryboy]

This is how I see things.

Some on the internet are of the opinion UFC is huge everywhere and is going to take over from boxing as the number 1 fighting sport. I simply don't beleive this is true. UFC has drawn some very impressive buyrates this year on ppv. Aside from De La Hoya vs Mayorga, their top couple of shows have beaten all boxing ppv's this year. This alone does not mean UFC is now number 1.

I am also a wrestling fan, and UFC moved to the tv station in America that WWE Raw used to be on, and they get rating that are about a third of what Raw was getting when it left the station. And wrestling has been on a downward spiral for years now. It also has nowhere near the popularity it does in America in other countries. When I go in to work I can always find people to talk about the boxing on ITV, I've never met a UFC fan anywhere but on the internet.

Where UFC has a big advantage is that they all work for a promotion. Boxers and boxing promoters seem to try and put off fans by avoiding putting on matches people want to see. There always seems to be something in the way, look at the welterweight scene this year, there was huge money to be made with a combination of Hatton/Mayweather/Margarito/Cotto but none of those guys ever got it on, all took inferior matches that people didn't really want to see. This hurts boxing, whereas UFC is one organistaion, they have their fighters under contract, they have their own ppv schedule, and a tv show to hype them. It's much easier for them to put on the matches their fans want to see. And thats what I chalk them getting big buyrates up too. They don't have everyone all over the world clamering to see who wins their matches, it's still a niche sport, I can't stand it and think it's incredibly boring, but they have a fanbase, which is the biggest it's been since their mid nineties boom, and they are putting on the matches these fans want. Eventually these matches will dry up and the boom will be over, just like what happned before. Boxing will carry on just as it always has, regardless.

[Punisher136]

This is how I see things.

Some on the internet are of the opinion UFC is huge everywhere and is going to take over from boxing as the number 1 fighting sport. I simply don't beleive this is true. UFC has drawn some very impressive buyrates this year on ppv. Aside from De La Hoya vs Mayorga, their top couple of shows have beaten all boxing ppv's this year. This alone does not mean UFC is now number 1.

I am also a wrestling fan, and UFC moved to the tv station in America that WWE Raw used to be on, and they get rating that are about a third of what Raw was getting when it left the station. And wrestling has been on a downward spiral for years now. It also has nowhere near the popularity it does in America in other countries. When I go in to work I can always find people to talk about the boxing on ITV, I've never met a UFC fan anywhere but on the internet.

Where UFC has a big advantage is that they all work for a promotion. Boxers and boxing promoters seem to try and put off fans by avoiding putting on matches people want to see. There always seems to be something in the way, look at the welterweight scene this year, there was huge money to be made with a combination of Hatton/Mayweather/Margarito/Cotto but none of those guys ever got it on, all took inferior matches that people didn't really want to see. This hurts boxing, whereas UFC is one organistaion, they have their fighters under contract, they have their own ppv schedule, and a tv show to hype them. It's much easier for them to put on the matches their fans want to see. And thats what I chalk them getting big buyrates up too. They don't have everyone all over the world clamering to see who wins their matches, it's still a niche sport, I can't stand it and think it's incredibly boring, but they have a fanbase, which is the biggest it's been since their mid nineties boom, and they are putting on the matches these fans want. Eventually these matches will dry up and the boom will be over, just like what happned before. Boxing will carry on just as it always has, regardless.

in a couple of years it will join the pog boom of the early 90's and the yo-yo boom of the late 90's: in the fad trash can. Hopefully emo music follows it down.

[JT Rock]

The stand-up that everyone praises is absolute crap. Aids patients have a better defense against colds than the majority of those fighters have against punches.

Theres a big difference covering up with a 4-6 oz glove and protecting yourself against a 4-6 oz glove then there is with 10 oz gloves..

It goes to the ground A LOT. They roll around A LOT.

Most matches end in the same fashion of a jerry springer show or playground fight. Two people swinging wildly one goes to the ground the other lands with horrible accuracy and then the two are seperated by Steve, the other person's mom, or a huge ref on roids. I apologize for not seeing thelearned technical skill employed in this finishes.

Understand how it might look to you but its all subtle technique.. I am 190lbs and I guarantee I can hold an untrained but in shape 222-270lb man on the ground and keep superior positionong just like I can escape when that same guy tries holding me down to inflict pain and punch on me, its not cause I am stronger or more athletic but I have better technical skills and a better understanding of leverage and physics of the human body while holding position...

The announcer with the most prestige on ufc is joe f'n rogan. This is a man who made himself famous by paying people for eating horrible stuff. He now gets paid to announce the action of something that, if it was made into a food, people wouldn't eat for any amount of money.

True Joe Rogan is a comedian and was famous from fear factor, but what you might not know is Joe is one hell of an accompolished Martial Artist himself with a brown belt in Brazalian Ju Jitsu.. So he is more than qualified to be a commentator.

Nobody would eat if its food huh Well yell you what if you havent been paying attention all the networks and all the ratings and PPV numbers... MMA is Filet Mignon brother cause the masses are turning to it and are preferring it over Boxing... Sorry man thats a fact

Any mofo with two arms and two legs can land a lucky shot and win. They could just twist the guys arm until he quits. I again apologize for not seeing the great technical skill employed in that.

Twist the guys arm till he Quits... Yea I get that alot with people and ask them to put me in an armbar and when the technique is all wrong and it takes them 10 minutes to do it and its ineffective... Yea anyone can do it Tell you what try it when the other guys expecting it and you have a split 2nd to do it then if you cant apply it effectively you have to let go regain postition and then try for another sub, some body positions you can have someone in a triangle choke and if you cant get it, then you can flow to a leg lock, knee bar, etc... Not easy and believe me its all technique 100%

Again this is a boxing forum not an MMA forum so I never expect anyone to embrace MMA.... But I am versed in Boxing and MMA so I can tell you 95% of the people that have pre conceived notions or talk about it, really know nothing about it or how its strategy or techniques apply....