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    Quote Originally Posted by albsur2006
    Overrated -
    Ricky Hatton @ 147
    Amir Khan
    Antonio Margarito
    Wladimir Klitschko
    O'Neil Bell
    Kelly Pavlik
    Mikkel Kessler
    Juan Manuel Marquez @ 130
    Diego Corrales

    Underrated -
    Samuel Peter
    Tomasz Adamek
    Sam Soliman
    Edison Miranda
    Arthur Abraham
    Ike Quartey
    Luis Collazo
    Juan Diaz
    Oscar Larios
    Klitschko overrated and Peter underrated

    UH bull CRAP

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    Quote Originally Posted by bilbo
    By far the most underrated boxer around is Cory Spinks. The poor guy gets almost no credit and is barely mentioned at all unless as an object of abuse.

    Yet he's a former undisputed weltwerweight champion who successfully moved up to 154 and won a world title belt in his first fight at the weight, something that according to Hatton's trainer Billy Graham (when trying to explain Hattons stinker against Collazo) nobody has ever done before
    Spinks?! Spinks deserves NO credit, zilch, nada. He is a good survivor, I'll give him that, but not much else. He's a total fraud who has BS wins over Ricardo Mayorga, Zab Judah and most recently Roman Karmazin. I've never seen anything like it before in all of boxing, a man getting so many gift decisions. He's a fraud, a coward, and an absolute boring fighter to watch. He was never undisputed anything in my book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by albsur2006
    Overrated -
    Ricky Hatton @ 147
    honestly how the fuck can you say that?

    when has there been posts to say hatton is anything special at 147?? ffs that is got ot be the biggest bullsh*t post on here i have ever read, and i have read alot of posts by VD...

    i am far from a brit "i love hatton fan" i think one collazo is very very underrated, but 2 hatton should of and could of trained and give him a rematch to show that he could do (and i honeslty believe he could) alot better than he did at short notice...

    but fact, the guy collazo or hatton was meant to fight pulled out, soa window opend up for hatton v collazo and he took it at very short notice and won, close, some say he lost but he WON but hatton has had a sh*t load of abuse for that fight and in no fucking way is he overrated at 147 thats utter bullsh*t

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk
    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis
    Its Hulks stupidity that makes him think that.
    Fuk you. Half yall think Steve Collins woulda beat Roy Jones in his prime, if that ain't stupidity, I dunno what is.
    He probably would. Roy Jones aint all that, its just all the Americans blowing things out of proportion as usuall
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    Quote Originally Posted by Preme
    Quote Originally Posted by albsur2006
    Overrated -
    Ricky Hatton @ 147
    honestly how the F*** can you say that?

    when has there been posts to say hatton is anything special at 147?? ffs that is got ot be the biggest bullsh*t post on here i have ever read, and i have read alot of posts by VD...

    i am far from a brit "i love hatton fan" i think one collazo is very very underrated, but 2 hatton should of and could of trained and give him a rematch to show that he could do (and i honeslty believe he could) alot better than he did at short notice...

    but fact, the guy collazo or hatton was meant to fight pulled out, soa window opend up for hatton v collazo and he took it at very short notice and won, close, some say he lost but he WON but hatton has had a sh*t load of abuse for that fight and in no F****** way is he overrated at 147 thats utter bullsh*t
    that's why you're wrong.....Hatton is overrated...he finally fought a really good boxer in his PRIME and should have lost that fight..if only his people didn't have such a huge stake in it....I thought he did....
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    If Urangotang beats him then he is overated. I dont think beating a good boxer in his PRIME at a higher weight on short notice is grounds to condemn him do you?
    When God said to the both of us "Which one of you wants to be Sugar Ray?" I guess I didnt raise my hand fast enough

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    I think Hatton looks worse for not staying at 147....doing that he kind of admits he's not good enough for it but I still respect the guy he has good talent I just want to see him WRECK Chico Corrales!

    Steve Collins....don't make me laugh

    JOE CALZAGHE always gets his props but hardly ever comes out and fights anyone worth fighting, it's always another "warm up fight"....Calzaghe fans should be kissing Jeff Lacy's ass for making that CAREER DEFINING fight possible!!!

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    Are you calling Steve Collins a clown? What you think he is here to amuse you?

    Joe's career is overated.
    When God said to the both of us "Which one of you wants to be Sugar Ray?" I guess I didnt raise my hand fast enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk
    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis
    Its Hulks stupidity that makes him think that.
    Fuk you. Half yall think Steve Collins woulda beat Roy Jones in his prime, if that ain't stupidity, I dunno what is.
    How about Charles Brewer, you think he was underated Hulk? How about Mayorga
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    I think Steven could have done a little more with himself....nothing to be ashamed of, RJJ could have done more too but he would have beat Steve had they fought....same as he would have beat Calzaghe if that guy had the balls to step up to 175 and come to the US to fight Roy

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    Remember, no one in America even knew who Calzaghe even was before he faught Lacy.
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    Overrated (by order):

    Joe Calzaghe- Wants big money fights, yet turns down 3.4 million. Coward move if I ever saw one
    Antonio Margarito- Bob Arum hype machine. Nothing more
    Vic Darchinyan- Wonder why he never calls out Parra?
    Junior Witter- This guy swears up and down he's an elite fighter. Only in his head he is
    Brian Viloria- Skilled fighter, who doesn't really seem to be into boxing
    Pongsaklek Wonjongkam- Can't believe Ring magazine actually put him on the P4P list
    Chris John- Made his name off a gift win over Juan Manuel Marquez
    Joan Guzman- Liked him in the lower weights. Not anymore. Lost his power
    Felix Strum- Losing to Castillejo says it all
    Juan Diaz- Boxing second most yellow Champion (Calzaghe is 1st). Fight somebody, God Damn it
    Clinton Woods- According to some posters, now he's good

    Underrated (by order):

    Joel Casamayor- By all rights should be undefeated and on P4P lists
    Rafael Marquez- Still not as known as he should be
    Lorenzo Parra- Better than Darchinyan and Jorge Arce
    O'Neil Bell- Exciting Cruiserweight. Very impressive in last fight
    Allan Green- People are starting to knock him now. I'm not. Will be big in 2007
    Ike Quartey- Underrated back in the day. Underrated now
    Luis Perez- Can't make 115 anymore. He'll make noise at 118.
    Koki Kameda- Very high on this kid. Expecting big things from him

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    Your wrong about Woods. I dont think one person on here is under any illussions about how good he is. He is a decent fighter who most thought had improved enough to edge past another decent fighter in Johnson. They were proved right. Clinton Woods is rated just right. Good fighter who has earned a proper world title the right way, end of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis
    Your wrong about Woods. I dont think one person on here is under any illussions about how good he is. He is a decent fighter who most thought had improved enough to edge past another decent fighter in Johnson. They were proved right. Clinton Woods is rated just right. Good fighter who has earned a proper world title the right way, end of.
    Bullshit. It can never be said that Woods won the title the right way. That title was unjustly stripped from Antonio Tarver. Woods is a paper champion. And that's the end of that.

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    Clinton Woods won his title the right way fighting the people he was told to fight. There would have been easier routes to a 'world' title but he took the right one.

    Bitching about what happened to Tarver doesnt make you any less wrong.

    I think your confusing healthy respect with overating. You are excused though.
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