Quote Originally Posted by huntin_itai

Look at Mirandas opponents during his time prior to his 2 biggest fights against Eastman and Abraham, 25 fights opponents combine record of 100-131, with 4 fighters being their 1st fight, 13 fighters with ZERO or ONE win and this is not padded? Kelly has not just beat his opponents he has annihilated them. Comparing Pavlik's opponents to Miranda's, who many of you are saying is the next coming, seems like Pavlik has fought the better comp, except Eastman and Abraham. Kelly has never been in trouble in any of his fights and has totally destroyed his opponents, watch the video I posted of his KO's, he can KO with both hands not just his right.

Remember Pantera, Pavlik fought Pierre who was beating Willie Gibbs on all judges scorecards before being KO'd in the 12th round. I remember you dogging Pavlik for fighting Pierre, but your boy fought a guy that was getting beat by him over 12 rounds.

Miranda's record was padded, he needed to step up and he did. Saying Pavlik's competition is better than Miranda's except for Abraham and Eastman is like saying Pavlik's competition is better than Taylor's except for Hopkins and Wright. Now, Hopkins and Wright are better than Abraham and Eastman, but either way, Miranda's opposition is much better than Pavlik's because of those two. Miranda's stepped up, Pavlik hasn't, hopefully after this fight he will.

As far as the Gibbs fight, I've been saying Miranda's win there was overrated. Gibbs was brought in to make Miranda look spectacular cause Gibbs is chinny and there to be hit. But either way the fact is Gibbs did beat Pierre whether he was losing the fight or not.


Quote Originally Posted by wacko3205


They do to me.

I'd say that Pavlik beats Inkin & Green...but Green would be a fight.

Andrade would go 12 rounds & it'd be close because he can box fairly well & the fact that he's super might be a factor too.

Same goes for Bute. I honestly think that Bute'd knock Pavlik's a** out.

I wanna see Duddy vs Pavlik.

That would be a fight.
I'm not sold on Pavlik yet but I think he'd knock Duddy out early.

I'm really not sold on Duddy.
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Agreed...on Duddy atleast...I aint sold on him one bit. Don't get me wrong...Pavlik's no world beater...but he's a good boxer & he's definently proven to be entertaining...but I'm with Mick...he needs to step the fwock up.
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Pavlik definitely has to step up, but still think he's better than Duddy.