How does boxing compare to UFC

[Hulk]

Damn you're 46 now!
But seriously now, you cannot compare running to boxing. Running, and times are pretty straight forward, boxing does is not so simple. Boxers are unique athletes, in a complex sport, where many differnt variables play out. But no matter what, Ali would KO Byrd, there's no doubt bout it. So does that mean that Wladimir Klit would KO Ali and George Foreman, and Fraizer and Liston too Cmon man, Gimme a break!! And you were benching 440, I find that hard to believe man. Did YOU weigh under 200lbs as well? That is an extradordianary amount of weight to bench press.

I weighed about 227 at that time and have weighed up to 277
Personal bench press best is 455 for a single. A 400 pound bench nowadays is nothing,what with all the steroids today. Im 6'4" and had a 54" chest.
have done 375 X4, 315 X 8, And 275 x17 I was a strength coach for U of A football in late 80's They had a competition in the Canadian Football league.
It was the most reps at 275. I did 17 A Edmonton Eskimo player John Manderich (older brother of Tony) did 27 reps and some guy from the montreal alouettes did 53!!!
LOL you should see one of my kids! he's 11 years old and weighs 237 lbs!
his chest is 50+" and his legs are 30" at the thigh!! I hope he will break the Canadian Bench press record! (575)
I wasn't really built for bench with a wide chest and long arms.
That old record was held by Franco Columbo.
In response to your question. I think that the logic applies to boxing the same as any other sport,maybe more so with the huge developments in technique and training and the effects on conditioning. Yes I think most any boxer in the top 10 today would beat ANY fighter in the 60's. Pick one..say Rahman? he'd DESTROY foreman,liston,ali etc..IT WOULDN"T EVEN BE A CONTEST. Maybe you should go to the 2007 Daytona 500 in the car that won the race in 1960?? how do you think you would do? PICK ANY SPORT or athletic event where you can measure the peformance, the greats were great in their day. This isn't it.
P.S. my day is gone too. This is what i USED to look like.
I'd send pics of me now but im afraid wacko and bilbo would use them as wankin' material!

1 hit wonder I ain't gonna sad click ya, your post makes some sense. Landmine, I ain't gonna sad click you either, that wacko and bilbo comment was funny shat, but DAMN what are you SMOKIN Hasim Rahman would Destroy Sonny Liston, "Big" George Foreman and Ali? No way. He would be stopped by all of them. Liston would take him outta there in about 3 rounds tops, Foreman bout 2 rounds, and he might last 6-8 rounds with Ali. How can you honestly believe this? Weightliftin and Daytona racing are totally differnt from the fine art of boxing.

[1-hit Wonder]

Yeah about the "Rahman would beat Foreman Liston ect... in their primes" is a bit duboius. I mean Foreman came back and won a world title at 45 or so. Way way past his prime

[ono]

Whilst I'd hardly consider myself a fan I do download the odd event or two to watch.

I watched the entire PPV broadcast of Pride's American debut a couple months back and as an event it was highly entertaining.

Some of the fights were over far too quickly and I got a little uncomfortable when a couple of the men assumed 69 position's on the floor and carried out what appeared to my untrained eyes to be sex acts on one another but the whole razzmataz if thats a word was definitely there.

There was this crazy ass woman fight announcer who I could only describe as having a videogame type voice, just amazing the sounds she managed to produce and loads of strobe lighting and effects.

The fights, even though I hadn't barely heard of any of them were still easy to get involved with thanks to brief pre fight interviews with the two protaganists, in which invariably one of them would come across as a complete and utter prick so I'd be rooting for the other guy to kick his face in.

And I have to say there is something rather satisfying about a sport that allows a fighter to literally do that! I saw people get knocked out by flying knees to the face, by having their ankles snapped, or being elbowed on the nose whilst being pinned down on the floor unable to move, its the kind of brutality you sometimes wish you could inject in a boxing fight.

Who wouldn't have liked to have seen Kosta Tyszu lay a prostrate Zab Judah on the ground, then sit astride his chest and headbutt him repeatedly on his nose until his face was a bloody mess?

Overall whilst I don't think it compares to boxing as a serious sport I would have to say that it can be very entertaining to watch at times and I would consider going to an event if they ever staged one near me.

To me its kind of like the difference between Formula One racing and Nascar. Whilst purists, journalists and serious race fans would not even consider Nascar to be a serious sport like Formula One, a huge swathe of hicks, rednecks and children watch it avidly to see the crashes.

Overall I would say it complements boxing rather than competes against it. Fight fans have more than one related sport to get excited about which is hardly a bad thing.

Cool click you're spot on with that. Especially the last paragraph. I watched the re-run of UFC 66 last night and i have to admit it was more exciting as an event then most boxing cards i have seen over the last 12 months.

[Puya]

That is why I only watch Lidell and Sylvia fights the hate the graplin crap and go straight to fight.

And the fact that they all want to fight each other makes it great. Lately at boxing the all hate each other. That is why all those big paydays have to dissapear and stick to a max of 3 millions or something like that

[Kev]

Prepared to get SC'd bigtime here

UFC and MMA in general is soon going to overtake boxing. There I said it.

Wanna know why? Anyone interested in fighting in general are massively put off by boxing. Its corrupt, noone fights each other, far too much inactivity, who the hells the actual champion ect...

Anyone just coming into these is immediately put off, many of my friends watch UFC/PRIDE instead of boxing because its much more accesible and all the big names fight each other. Its actually much more like real fighting with far less rules; you can kick, punch grapple, submission by various means ect. Sure they watch the odd boxing match now its on ITV, but I'm the one who has to explain to them how good who fighting who is, whats the significance of the fight ect.

Plus the more you think about it boxing aint all that useful in real life - unless you can knock the guy out in one hit they are gonna get a hold of you at which point judo or jai-jitsu is a whole lot more useful as its all about using the weight of your opponent against them.

I agree with the first part.
BUT the only names that fight are the names provided by the ufc. They present fighters that they have on contact.which is a very small segment of the mma fighters available. They use their show on TV to create interest in the fighters.MANY fighters are better or more deserving that the ufc guys but ufc doesnt OWN them and therefor has no interest in showcasing them. Its kinda like a Don King Promoted fight .or Its like saying the wba is the ONLY boxing that counts.They have done a great job of promoting teh sport and FOR SURE its the favorite of younger guys.
As for figting on the street. I would pick boxing skill over anything else although mma fighters are good strikers too. Very seldom does a bar fight end up on the ground where mma technique can be used. People break it up first. In the bar ,a boxer rules. Quick one ,two and the guys out.

I completely agree with you. Anyone who thinks boxers avoid each other but MMA stars don't is deluded. The UFC is just one organistation amongst mixed martial arts.

To be an accurate comparison to boxing each of the world ranking organisations, WBA WBC IBF and WBO would have to all be totally independent of each other with their own fighters, kind of like Rugby Union and Rugby League or Darts.

At least all of the governing boxing bodies are part of a much bigger boxing scene worldwide.

I know the UFC and Pride etc are taking steps to bring MMA stars from different organisations together but it is a long way away from the kind of global organisation of boxing.