Quote Originally Posted by bilbo
Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea
Boxing can make you old overnight, and that's what happened to Toney. He had nothing. I scored it 119-108. 11 rounds to 1 for Peter, with a two-point round in the 2nd because of the knockdown, which was caused by a jab surprisingly enough. The only round I gave to Toney was the 3rd.

I had Toney winning the first fight 8 rounds to 4, but he did none of the things last night that he did in the first fight. Toney's days as a serious contender are over IMO and he should call it a career, because it's been a very good, maybe great, career. I'm sure he'll keep fighting though.

I did get a laugh out of Toney claiming that he won and it was a bad decision. Way to lose gracefully.
If you thought Toney won a clear victory last time out a mere 3 months ago I really can't see why you think his days as a serious contender are now over?

If the last few years have shown us anything, it's that the heavyweight division is in such a poor state right now that a fighter only needs to win one fight to put themselves right back in contention.

Just look at the the list of bums, a la Briggs, Maskaev, Harrison, Guinn, McCline, etc.

All Toney needs to do is beat one fighter and he's back in the mix.

He'll still have plenty of options, a rematch with Holyfield, a rematch with Jones Jr, a big showdown with Hopkins or Tarver, a fight against a tough contender liker Chagaev, Lyakhovich, Brewster etc.

It wouldn't suprise me at all if he fought another title eliminator by the end the end of the year.

Toney is still one of the biggest draws in boxing.

Personally I can't see him ever volountarily retiring. He'll be like Roberto Duran still fighting when he's 50 and only a car crash type incident will make him quit.
Like you Bilbo, I am a huge Toney fan (okay not as big as him, but....) his punch output is slipping, he is getting hit heavily. I watched the Holy: Toney fight again tonight to remind myself of what it was I enjoyed about Toney. Most of that was missing from this fight. He wasnt evasive, he was too heavy again, and the extra muscle gave no signs of extra power....

He was actually dominated in this fight. Peter learned and Toney didnt and at this stage that is very dangerous for Toney.

Im a Toney fan but I realise at this stage that the belly is just sheer ludicrousy!!