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How is Valero's chin weak? Pac's power is proven against fighters his size or smaller. He's never fought at natural 130 like Valero. Punches don't have the same affect against bigger fighters. I'm pretty sure you can agree with that. I'm not saying Valero is going to win. I'm just saying he has a better chance than you and a lot of people think. Him winning will not surprise me.
The guy Pacquiao fought before the Morales second fight, wasn't he the naturally bigger guy who hadn't been stopped?[
exactly valezquez is a naturally bigger guy than pac and pac took him out in 6th while pac practice his right hooks on him.

pac since the mab fight has never been naturally bigger then any of his oppenents. maybe only 3k battery because his shorter then pac. larios move up in weight but he walks around heavier then pac without a upcoming fight. pac has always prove that he has power against heavier guys. he spars and knock around welters up to middleweights plus pac is around 140 come fight night and during sparring and training before draining he sticks around to 140 like a welterweight. valero is not much bigger then pac and I said his chin is weaker then pac because vincent drop valero and pac jmm mab even guzman has more power then vincent and vincent doesn't have the same speed. and that vincent fight was just a few months ago.

you said punches don't have the same affect on bigger guys, but pac is known to drop a middleweight in sparring. and what you should keep in mind is that punches don't have same affect on elites, they are more hungry committed and conditioned meaning chins are stronger legs last longer and they don't just roll over and fold for pay day like the bums valero has been k.oing in the first round. all of those guys valero k.oed pac will k.o too or even worst pac may practice his hooks or whatever he wants to do before finishing them. valero hasn't proved S***. pac will knock him out back to silent ville. his hype is getting too annoying he don't even look at all special. he doesn't have nothing but a hype unproven power.

he steps up his oppenents his gonna get expose vincent a only decent guy almost already did.

valero probubly just want pac to get a big pay day. so funny like when larios was saying he wants a rematch.
Come on Jumount, Velazquez came in with 10 losses and had been stopped 4 times in his career. Real impressive. And how you going to compare sparring with actual fighting. It's not the same thing. The fact that he's dropping middleweights in sparring don't mean S***. It's not like those middleweights are Jermain Taylor, Winky Wright, Ike Quartey or some other big name. Him dropping Raul Frank, Robert Frazier or some other bum middleweight don't impress me. Valero getting dropped by Mosquera don't mean he has a weak chin. Mosquera is a very good fighter. And his power is underrated. Go look at his fight against Yodsanan Nanthachi. In which he dropped the iron jawed Thai 3 times. You'll see he has good power. Bottom line is this. Valero can't fight. He has no head movement. His defense sucks. And he seems to over-commit on his punches. But he can hit. He has outstanding power. And that combined with the fact that Pac ain't to hard to hit gives him a chance. Rather you won't to admit it or not.
v.d. ur so funny your still not over jumont...didn't saddo already punk you about that I'm not him, that so sad holding on like that get a life.

I don't understand first u say its different when punches land on bigger guys and valero is bigger so uhh...... then dismiss the fact that pac has enough power to knock around middleweights. and then not care about how peeps over hype valero for k.oing a bunch of Beat Up Motherfuckers a.k.a BUMS! and yes is naturally bigger is that really impressive? nope. so basically not only has he been fighting bums his been picking on smaller guys. this is why I'm not sold on him. I won't be surprise he turns out looking like a bum, we both know his vulnerable so that's why u say he should fight pac soon while he gets these hype. that just show he doesn't impress you too.

pacs k.o eric in the second and third, em is a naturally bigger guy and his an elite dominant over any of valeros oppenent. a long career to be known with a granite iron chin. your prolly gonna say eric was shot, if I can remember right v.d you was saying how much eric would beat pac with this same reason because his a naturally bigger guy then pac.

back to valero, your only argument that has a point is yes valero has a punchers chance, but the hype his getting he doesn't yet deserve, if ever he will deserve it.

and yea your right valero may not ever change his style so while his getting this hype go challenge the beast I mean the best in the division. I think its a bad move, pac hasn't been drop for years and now with a whole country under his shoulders pacs character and heart won't allow himself to be dissappointed. pac will train hard and drop middleweights in sparring then will not take valero lightly so that means valeros punchers chance is very slim against pacs gauranteed brutal rage. pac does get hit but isn't as easy as one may think. punches may land but he anticipates them coming and sides his head away watch him carefully see his eyes he anticipates to cussin the blows.

as for the guy who mentioned larios. when he stun pac, pac took it easy on larios, pac won't take it easy on valero specailly with all this hype. pac will k.o valero in the first or second.

only one that may beat pac is jmm, if jmm stays on his toes and bicycle while countering. going toe to toe with pac is suicide that's what pac does best, legends won some battle but pac always won the war. only a guy like jmm can beat pac. if he can fruastrate him. valero is a joke by the way.