To all believers in Pacman - not necessarily his fans - I can guarantee you that all this Pac trashing talks will stop after 2 or 3 more fights, provided that he don't fight some bummers. Someone said only Pac can defeat himself, and unless he becomes lazy and take his opponent easy but train as hard as he did for Erik, started training with a flu and ended up in the ring with a fever but still coming out victorious, there is no doubt he'll be able to beat anyone out there. Most people here just don't know what kinda monster power Pac brings - his punches are even stronger than ever. He'd KO Barrera much earlier and he can KO Marquez in the 1st, next time around - I'm willing to stake my 'reputation' on this one.