Quote Originally Posted by Humble
=if erik was THAT done why DIDNT barrera or raheem stop him or at least drop him once Pac DID.
=if MAB was just off that night he was mauled by PAC why was it a landslide win/stoppage for PAC and not just a close decision win?
=PAC compared to other big punchers at 130 is really a natural 126 pounder IMO he started his career as a fighter at 112 pounds and worked his way up DESTROYING fighters MUCH BIGGER THAN HIM.
= he's got charisma ad a powerful fighter who is actually NOT A THUG
Quote Originally Posted by pacfan
Quote Originally Posted by Humble
=if erik was THAT done why DIDNT barrera or raheem stop him or at least drop him once Pac DID.
=if MAB was just off that night he was mauled by PAC why was it a landslide win/stoppage for PAC and not just a close decision win?
=PAC compared to other big punchers at 130 is really a natural 126 pounder IMO he started his career as a fighter at 112 pounds and worked his way up DESTROYING fighters MUCH BIGGER THAN HIM.
= he's got charisma ad a powerful fighter who is actually NOT A THUG
Good points, and let me add some too. They say Barrera and Morales are almost a sure future Hall of Fame(rs). They say Morales was a finished fighter only when he got beaten by Pac - didn't they say that to Barrera when he got beaten too? Oscar Larios not one of the 'better' fighter for Pac? hmmm, with a record of 54-5, who held the World super bantam title straight for almost 4 years (he lost the title to a guy he tko'd before because he was drained making weight so he moved up immediately after that), winning 13 consecutive times during that period, but Pacman took him as his tune-up opponent, and still not impressive?
Excellent points and I'm not even a big Manny fan but the bastard earnt my respect by beating these warriors. In beating Erik who busted him up the first time and becoming the first man to stop him,beating MAB who was suppoosedly finished yet has manged to fight on for another 4 years,drawing with JMM(although I thought he lost),and beating Larios PLSU busting up 122 pounders asses too,to ask why he is getting so much hype is a really really silly question.

And it's not just the guys he has beaten but how he has beaten them and the imprements he has been showing. Like I said,I'm not a fan but when a guy busts up 3 of your favourite fighters,I think he deserves respect. He has beaten more hall of famers than either.

And to say Mayweather has fought better opposition in the 3 year time span is the biggest pile of shat I have heard.....Morales washed up the third time is better than Baldo,Gatti,Mitchell etc etc so how impressive is a Morales who wasn't washed up ie the second time.Manny has beaten more Hall of famer fighters than Floyd and has fought as many good fighters as Floyd has in his entire career in 3 years.Even when Morales was fighting Pac the third time,peeps thought Morales may still win,respectable members here,guys who know their shot.When has Floyd fought someone we thought..hmmm..may be a challenge.....not since JLC until Oscar.....

Pac also started as mentioned,at 112,which makes his accomplishments even more amazing!