Quote Originally Posted by Lords Gym
Quote Originally Posted by Kel
Quote Originally Posted by killersheep
I agree, far too much holding and hitting IMO

Please tell Hatton to stop this.

Hatton likes to fight on the inside so why would he tie up or hold? Its his opponents who hold, Rick just wants to throw punches and instead of backing off he stays in their face.

Holyfield v Tyson is an example of exessive holding though. Holyfield just held on so Tyson could not throw any punches........which I thought was a good strategy.
Kostya Tszyu also used holding to slow down opponents who moved quicker than he did......again a good strategy.
PBF holds when he is cornered or againsed the ropes to avoid punishment......could you call that a foul?

Seems to me every tactical fighter holds.

Where do you draw the line with it?
Holyfield's may have held a little here and there, but made no habit of it ~ he was a warrior for the most part. an when did Tszyu hold a fighter? this I can't recall he never made a habit of it ! this i can say.. I'm talking about the habitual holders. Lewis . Wlad Klitchko , john Ruiz, , Timor Whateverthfuck, these guys.
Never said Holyfield made a habit of it but the first Tyson fight he held for most of the fight.
Tszyu held Sharmba Mitchel in both fights to slow him down so he could get his punches off (he admitted this strategy)

Im not talking about any particular fighter but what would be considered a foul.