Quote Originally Posted by wacko3205
Quote Originally Posted by miles
Peter is definately improving a lot. I think the Toney of this fight would have edged the Peter of the last fight, but this was an even better Peter. All the pre fight hype about Toneys fitness regime meant fewer people were focussing on just how hard Peter was training. And it showed in the ring. He fought a full 12 rounds and was dancing at the end. Credit to the man. He is realising some of that potential and he can go far if he keeps up this attitude and approach.
Well...I'm glad that someone's honestly coming out with it. Peter did improve & you could see that he had put in the miles & training for the match. I'm agreeing with you that he's finally realising his potential. Agreed 100% that he can go far if he keeps this attitude and approach.


That being said...don't you hate saying things like "this was an even better Peter." Heh heh heh. I mean...it kinda goes hand in hand with "Ummmmmmmmmmmmm hmmmmmmmm guuuuuurrrrl...he put up a much better fight last night. I mean Peter was rock hard & he gave it to Toney's a** all night long. It was a long, ruff night, but I loved it."

Well...maybe the two don't go hand in hand...oh god...

Quote Originally Posted by miles
In fairness to Toney he is far from shot. He lost this fight, because ultimately Peter was able to improve more than he was. Peter executed the jab often doubling or tripling it up. He didnt play Toney's game on the ropes. Peter was bigger, stronger and able to throw more punches per round. Toney's conditioning was marginally better. He did fight more to the center of the ring. If Toney can continue to work on his fitness and realise it is essential to finish out his career then I think he has a few decent fights left in him. He needs to remain active and just get a win or 2 under his belt. Toney will be back.
But honestly...if he couldn't beat Samuel Peter...who everyone thinks sucks so badly...how's he going to handle someone like Wlad or some of the other top teners?

I'd love to see Toney revitalize his potential & take on a new attitude by dropping back down to 200lbs & fighting as a cruiser again.

That's where JFAT belongs, IWO.
Clicked you back, despite the vomit inducing thoughts of Toney being on the recieving end of Peter!

I dont think Peter sucks and have never thought that way. I certainly thought he was extremely limited going into the Wlad fight, but he managed to put Wlad down 3 times (though a couple of those were dubious). Prior to the 1st Peter fight, I did think that that was the most dangerous fight since Toney stepped up to heavyweight. I thought Toney won that fight and though Peter showed obvious development, I thought a better conditioned Toney could decision Peter in the rematch.

I dont think it is a matter of Toney being on the slide here, it is definately that Peter is showing genuine skill.

At this point Wlad is too much for Toney. To be honest I rank Peter 2nd behind Wlad amongst all the heavies now. No way does he suck. Potentially he can improve on his last fight with Wlad and win a rematch. Potentially. If he can come this far in 2 fights, he can make a lot of progress in the next year.

As for Toney, well, I think cruiserweight is too much to expect of him and especially at his age. He should keep on with his fitness regime, work on that stamina and have a couple of tune ups in the first half of this year...

Maybe then he can have 1 final step up..