Quote Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
Quote Originally Posted by 'The Boxer'
i don't consider toney or PBF to have unorthadox defenses
Really?

Well they do..No doubt about it...You need some serious skill to pull of the shoulder roll and counters teqnique....
James becuase it works so well with his punching style..And Floyd because i once saw him do it for at least 30 40 seconds strait under none stop punches..Just roll away from the left capture the right over and over against phillip Ndou..
Very nice...
Seriously one ina million can use this type of defence and be effective at total world class level...
And considering neither fighter has been stopped..But if your not on the money with it your open..
That is really something.
the move that PBF and toney use aren't unorthodox. alot of fighters use those moves. it's just that there really good.