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    Default Re: WBO orders Margarito-Williams!

    Quote Originally Posted by frozensolid_702


    and youre absolutely right about williams flaws though, but if he irons out those flaws (a big if) than we have the current generations next big thing in boxing.................................. not just a good fighter that can beat a glorified journeyman
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    I love both guys, my 2 favourite fighters but I'm going on record and saying Margarito is going to wreck Cotto. Why? He's been waiting for this for a loooooooooooooooooooooong time,he's more experienced at the weight and he can take advantage of Cotto's defence. Tony will get banged to the body but he knows that and should prepare for that.Cotto is going to be attacked in a way he has not been before,head and body. I just see Tony overwhelming him and the pace Tony will set will upset Miguel#s rythm and cool demeanour.he won't be used to all that leather coming at him. As I love both guys,I think it gives me a good view of the fight and I think the Tijuana tornado wins. Either way,that's fight of the year for me,nothing can beat that. We will learn ALOT about both fighters.

    I think both beat Williams,if Sharmba can get inside like that,so too can Cotto and Cotto would murder Paul to the body. Margarito I feel hits harder,and come across as more savvy to me. If he gets as many free shots as Sharmba and Mathysee,he'll hurt Williams and although Williams is the one fighter I can see outworking Tony,it's going to be a BIG jump for Williams in terms of quality of opponent and I don't think he'll be able to handle it.And like it or not,Margarito's defence is tighter(Clottey fight aside)
    Tony worries me cause he can take and dish out punches all night. Only thing is, Cotto doesn't concentrate mainly on the head like most guys. And I doubt Tonys body is as tough as his face. I don't care how good your chin is, your body can only take so much.
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    Williams is very much ready to step up and take on a top welterweight. Why should he keep on racking up on second tier fighters? The kid already has like 40 fights in. Does that remind you of someone else they said wasn't ready for the top tier because he hadn't beat top guys yet? Hatton, when he defeated King Kostya. Margarito might not be afraid of Williams but he knows this guy is definitely capable of beating him and putting him on the backburner. Does anyone remember Williams use to be a Margarito sparring partner and soon enough was giving him the business. Margarito knows that the kid has skills and his reason to be stripped to take on Cotto is not just a business decision. He passed up his mandatory to take on Clottey. Clottey isn't exactly a name. How many of Clottey's fights have been headliners that you've watched? And Margarito isn't exactly taking all comers. Many people have called him out but namely Zab offered to fight him for his first fight back and that is definitely a big enough name. But I am no fool and I am a thorough boxing fan, competitor, trainer, and judge every now and then. So I say this also, Margarito is no bum or journeyman by far. He is another guy who is good at fighting but is victimized by the business of boxing. I can't blame Margarito for not taking on the dangerous, possible spoiler, Williams. Just like other good fighters who happen to be good business people you have to pick the right fights for you if you are in it for the buck first, which these fighters deserve. But lets not bash or belittle the guys who are being avoided in attempts to mask what the truth actually is. Lets just keep it real and say I'd rather pass on a Margarito-Williams fight to secure a Margarito-Cotto fight. Either fight can quite possibly go to either guy but which fight is a better business decision?

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    I have said it before and I will say it again...What has Paul Williams done to deserve a title shot??......IMO it is another black eye on the sport....WHEN WILL FIGHTERS ACTUALLY HAVE TO WORK THEIR WAY THROUGH THE RANKINGS??
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
    I have said it before and I will say it again...What has Paul Williams done to deserve a title shot??......IMO it is another black eye on the sport....WHEN WILL FIGHTERS ACTUALLY HAVE TO WORK THEIR WAY THROUGH THE RANKINGS??
    Cotto's mandatory is Otkay Urkal, who's last 2 opponents at welter were a combined 3-13...... How the hell is he a mandatory?? I suspect you don't get as upset about that one, simply because Cotto doesn't stand to lose. Could be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
    I have said it before and I will say it again...What has Paul Williams done to deserve a title shot??......IMO it is another black eye on the sport....WHEN WILL FIGHTERS ACTUALLY HAVE TO WORK THEIR WAY THROUGH THE RANKINGS??
    Cotto's mandatory is Otkay Urkal, who's last 2 opponents at welter were a combined 3-13...... How the hell is he a mandatory?? I suspect you don't get as upset about that one, simply because Cotto doesn't stand to lose. Could be wrong.
    I've never seen Otkay Urkal fighting. I am interested in comments of anyone who has seen him. Do you think he may have any chance with Cotto?

    About Margarito, it looks like he is will let the title vacant to fight Cotto. I think Cotto is going to crush Margarito with his body punches. However, Cotto has to be careful with the upper and straight right hand. Williams has impressed me more with his height rather than his skills. I don't think he beats Margarito neither Cotto.
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    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
    I have said it before and I will say it again...What has Paul Williams done to deserve a title shot??......IMO it is another black eye on the sport....WHEN WILL FIGHTERS ACTUALLY HAVE TO WORK THEIR WAY THROUGH THE RANKINGS??
    Cotto's mandatory is Otkay Urkal, who's last 2 opponents at welter were a combined 3-13...... How the hell is he a mandatory?? I suspect you don't get as upset about that one, simply because Cotto doesn't stand to lose. Could be wrong.





    No your wrong......I say the same thing about Austin getting a shot at Klitschko....Urkal...I also thought Cotto should not have gotten an immediate title shot at 147....What about the guys who have already been there working hard?...IMO just because you were champion in the division below...and you move up.....The best they should get is 10th ranking.....Right is right.....





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    I personally would like to see Margarito beat Cotto
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    I personally would like to see Margarito beat Cotto
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
    I have said it before and I will say it again...What has Paul Williams done to deserve a title shot??......IMO it is another black eye on the sport....WHEN WILL FIGHTERS ACTUALLY HAVE TO WORK THEIR WAY THROUGH THE RANKINGS??
    Cotto's mandatory is Otkay Urkal, who's last 2 opponents at welter were a combined 3-13...... How the hell is he a mandatory?? I suspect you don't get as upset about that one, simply because Cotto doesn't stand to lose. Could be wrong.





    No your wrong......I say the same thing about Austin getting a shot at Klitschko....Urkal...I also thought Cotto should not have gotten an immediate title shot at 147....What about the guys who have already been there working hard?...IMO just because you were champion in the division below...and you move up.....The best they should get is 10th ranking.....Right is right.....





    Fair enough, I don't really agree with you in terms of a champ moving up though, imo if a fight can be arranged beforehand where one champion moves up to fight another, that's all well and good... Of course it's all a matter of the situation and who is involved.. I mean can you object to Mayweather moving up and "getting a shot" and Oscar's WBC belt(that he won from Mayorga who won it vacantly from Pichirillo) ?

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    Default Re: WBO orders Margarito-Williams!

    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty
    I personally would like to see Margarito beat Cotto
    Why bro? Didn't expect to hear that from you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
    I have said it before and I will say it again...What has Paul Williams done to deserve a title shot??......IMO it is another black eye on the sport....WHEN WILL FIGHTERS ACTUALLY HAVE TO WORK THEIR WAY THROUGH THE RANKINGS??
    Cotto's mandatory is Otkay Urkal, who's last 2 opponents at welter were a combined 3-13...... How the hell is he a mandatory?? I suspect you don't get as upset about that one, simply because Cotto doesn't stand to lose. Could be wrong.





    No your wrong......I say the same thing about Austin getting a shot at Klitschko....Urkal...I also thought Cotto should not have gotten an immediate title shot at 147....What about the guys who have already been there working hard?...IMO just because you were champion in the division below...and you move up.....The best they should get is 10th ranking.....Right is right.....





    Fair enough, I don't really agree with you in terms of a champ moving up though, imo if a fight can be arranged beforehand where one champion moves up to fight another, that's all well and good... Of course it's all a matter of the situation and who is involved.. I mean can you object to Mayweather moving up and "getting a shot" and Oscar's WBC belt(that he won from Mayorga who won it vacantly from Pichirillo) ?











    Actually I do but you have to pick and choose your battles you know what I mean?...Yeah I know it's Mayweather who is P4P and how everything came about but I look at it this way.....Even if you get a guy with a 20-15 record......He lost his first 15 in a row for what ever reason...The he reinvents himself works hard and is on a 20 straight win streak...He has worked his ass off to be ranked...He has fought and beat thefighters ranked 10-3 and he is now third...This guy has worked his ass off to get a shot at a title.....He is 34 or so and doesnt have much time left in the game...now all of a sudden he is pushed aside for this guy from some other weight class who just came there for the first time......This guy gets screwed......Why....Because no one wants to see this guy fight...and the money is by getting the other guy who just got there a shot.....EG. A guy like Baldomir was pushed aside for years and turns out he was a legit guy.....I know the rtecord is an exaggeration but it is the idea of it Iam trying to get across....Fair is Fair...But like I said this is boxing
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