Quote Originally Posted by Smashup
Come off it Lyle.....the guy pretty much single handedly changed the US race wise in the 60's.
Your country was a mess race wise until he made that Vietnam stance and stuck two fingers up to the White house and led the way by example.
One man army imo who had his biggest fights outside the ring and still won by Knockout
I'm a White Londoner and am in awe of Mr Ali still
BULLSHIT!

He wasn't the only person against the war and to belittle Joe Louis is a fucking shame which is of course what he did.

The views of race were changed by MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. and the black citizens willing to do sit ins and stand up for themselves and the white citizens willing to stand up for their neighbors.


Be in awe of Ali all you want I'm not trying to stop you, I'm just saying he was devisive to his race as well.....how did BLACK fighters Joe Frazier and George Foreman feel being called Uncle Toms by such a "great" man?

George Foreman loves what America did for him....he would have been just a thug instead of a gold medal winner/multiple time heavyweight champion/entreprenure without the help of the Job Corps which got him involved in boxing