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either way that S***'s useless. like someone is just going to hand over thier arm or hand or whatever.
Remember Von to obtain pain compliance or joint destructions you have to create a distraction whether its intercepting the fist, parrying or deflecting set up mutiple combos depending on were the sequence flows...

example: if you attempted to punch me and I deflected with my right and simotaneously fingerjabbed you with my left to your eye, quickly grabbed your wrist with my right and then uppercutted your already hyper-extended elbow with my own elbow you are already such a mess that a 5 year old could grab your wrist and make you comply and thats just one possible scenario out of 1000's or it works well if someone grabs you, your shirt there are countless ways and styles.. I prefer the FMA's myself and as I been thinking it over for the past year, I might forgo the JKD and MMA aspirations and concentrate on the FMA's but I feel at 31 I still have a long time to go in MA's so I have time to do it all essentially but work is a heavy constraint on my time and growth
No disrespect mate it doesnt work like that in a real go. I would bet my house you would not be able to pull that S*** off in a real go. Thats my opinion but its an opinion of experience. I have seen to many people try that stuff and get levelled.

Sorry
I been in real go's myself Bro and have utilized JKD techniques they work believe me I have worked the door in a very Rowdy Strip joint and have dealt with the scum of the earth, I been attacked by a carpenters hammer, I have had a gun held to my head, so I have dealt with adversity in plenty of non-sport skirmishes and if I wasnt alert from mytraining or background I might have been hurt seriously or killed.....I dont claim to be the end all be all tough guy but I can hold my own I have parried punches and used leverage countless times to gain superior position. the bigger they are the easier its been.. but to discount proper technique and say it dosent work is a little short sighted.. its like anything else you use the appropriate strike depending on distance and angles, no different than when a boxer trys to throw an uppercut from 3 ft away OF COURSE he is wide opened to get sparked, MA techniques are no different... Fight Smarter not harder
So you've also worked doors eh? Look i'm not saying training isnt of benefit. But you cannot presuure test all those fancy techniques under stress. Gross motor skills work best under pressure and under the strain of a real go. I'm sure your training has been a useful attribute but as far as trapping arms and busting elbows and using all sortas of funky standing joint manipulation ALA Steven Segal when the shyte hits the fan. Ive never seen it work...and i've seen quite a bit.

If you say it works for you then i have no reason not to believe you. What i will say is where TMA's come unstuck is when there are 1000's of different options are trained for, this f*cks the mind under adrenaline and it can't choose what it wants. Then invariably the person freezes. As i have said countless times choose 3 or 4 signature moves drilled endlessly and have a support system that can be pressure tested such as MMA,Juso, Boxing. Cmbat sports where it takes balls to step up. Cos that is what it takes when some 15 stone guy is spitting in your face telling you he is going to rip your head off. It takes nuts to just stop yourself from freezing.